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	<title>Comments on: Big Government vrs. The Virtue of Governing Oneself</title>
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		<title>By: c</title>
		<link>http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2009/11/28/big-government-vrs-the-virtue-of-governing-oneself/comment-page-1/#comment-216623</link>
		<dc:creator>c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 19:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Your mother named you Daddy Love?&quot;

Indeed not. It&#039;s fair to say that the only person who has called me that is you. Furthermore, I&#039;ve never used that name when commenting here, or anywhere else for that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Your mother named you Daddy Love?&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed not. It&#8217;s fair to say that the only person who has called me that is you. Furthermore, I&#8217;ve never used that name when commenting here, or anywhere else for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Northcott</title>
		<link>http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2009/11/28/big-government-vrs-the-virtue-of-governing-oneself/comment-page-1/#comment-216622</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Northcott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 16:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the links. ... Rules of argumentation that are taken too earnestly miss the point of argumentation altogether. There is an element of play, not unlike all other human engagements, where the participants learn the limitations or reach of the &quot;rules&quot; solely through practice.

What is the point of carrying on any conversation if one does not commit to certain statements and see where they lead. ... Conversation is not to arrive a a final destination, it&#039;s the back and forth, seeing where certain &quot;propositions&quot; go--what is illuminated more fully than it was before--that is enjoyment of conversation.

Are you even interested in the subject at hand? in self-government?

Your mother named you Daddy Love?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the links. &#8230; Rules of argumentation that are taken too earnestly miss the point of argumentation altogether. There is an element of play, not unlike all other human engagements, where the participants learn the limitations or reach of the &#8220;rules&#8221; solely through practice.</p>
<p>What is the point of carrying on any conversation if one does not commit to certain statements and see where they lead. &#8230; Conversation is not to arrive a a final destination, it&#8217;s the back and forth, seeing where certain &#8220;propositions&#8221; go&#8211;what is illuminated more fully than it was before&#8211;that is enjoyment of conversation.</p>
<p>Are you even interested in the subject at hand? in self-government?</p>
<p>Your mother named you Daddy Love?</p>
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		<title>By: c</title>
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		<dc:creator>c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;d read the links, you&#039;d find this a good deal easier. In particular:

&quot;The presupposition is a proposition that is presumed to be acceptable to the respondent when the question is asked. The respondent becomes committed to this proposition when he gives any direct answer.&quot;

As for your last question: see above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;d read the links, you&#8217;d find this a good deal easier. In particular:</p>
<p>&#8220;The presupposition is a proposition that is presumed to be acceptable to the respondent when the question is asked. The respondent becomes committed to this proposition when he gives any direct answer.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for your last question: see above.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Northcott</title>
		<link>http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2009/11/28/big-government-vrs-the-virtue-of-governing-oneself/comment-page-1/#comment-216618</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Northcott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry ... &quot;a&quot; good place to start</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry &#8230; &#8220;a&#8221; good place to start</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Northcott</title>
		<link>http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2009/11/28/big-government-vrs-the-virtue-of-governing-oneself/comment-page-1/#comment-216617</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Northcott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How enlightening.

In that case, do you have a name besides Daddy Love or c?

Maybe that&#039;s good place to start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How enlightening.</p>
<p>In that case, do you have a name besides Daddy Love or c?</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s good place to start.</p>
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		<title>By: c</title>
		<link>http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2009/11/28/big-government-vrs-the-virtue-of-governing-oneself/comment-page-1/#comment-216616</link>
		<dc:creator>c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or to put it another way:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_question</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or to put it another way:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_question" >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_question</a></p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Northcott</title>
		<link>http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2009/11/28/big-government-vrs-the-virtue-of-governing-oneself/comment-page-1/#comment-216615</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Northcott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that clears things up entirely. Thank you.

Where did you acquire such wisdom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that clears things up entirely. Thank you.</p>
<p>Where did you acquire such wisdom?</p>
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		<title>By: c</title>
		<link>http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2009/11/28/big-government-vrs-the-virtue-of-governing-oneself/comment-page-1/#comment-216614</link>
		<dc:creator>c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 06:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would suggest that Kiyosaki is not a legitimate expert on the subject.   I would further suggest that you know this is the case, as if he were a legitimate expert, you would see my previous comment as supportive of your position, and would, presumably, have no reason to question it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would suggest that Kiyosaki is not a legitimate expert on the subject.   I would further suggest that you know this is the case, as if he were a legitimate expert, you would see my previous comment as supportive of your position, and would, presumably, have no reason to question it.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Northcott</title>
		<link>http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2009/11/28/big-government-vrs-the-virtue-of-governing-oneself/comment-page-1/#comment-216611</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Northcott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 21:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. Reasonable people appeal to authority.

Do you have a point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Reasonable people appeal to authority.</p>
<p>Do you have a point?</p>
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		<title>By: c</title>
		<link>http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2009/11/28/big-government-vrs-the-virtue-of-governing-oneself/comment-page-1/#comment-216610</link>
		<dc:creator>c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or to put it another way:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or to put it another way:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority" >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A....._authority</a></p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Northcott</title>
		<link>http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2009/11/28/big-government-vrs-the-virtue-of-governing-oneself/comment-page-1/#comment-216608</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Northcott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gran Torino was set in Detroit, the prototypical embodiment of American urban decay. ... The problems that have plagued Detroit for some time now are emerging all across the United States, particularly where states are near bankruptcy and cannot afford to pay for the immediate law enforcement needed to keep people safe. ... Arizona is a good example, especially so with the flood of illegal immigration across its southern border.

We are witnessing the welfare state being pushed to the brink of collapse, particularly in the US. ... Any country that has a gargantuan prison bureaucracy is encumbered with a very costly manifestation of Big Government. ... In times such as these, people need to wrap their head around the virtue of self-government in all aspects of their lives.

Even Robert Kiyosaki, author of New York Times best seller Rich Dad, Poor Dad, is warning people to prepare for the worst and &quot;buy a gun.&quot; ... Kiyosaki is not a conspiracy theorist or some quack.

Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZAzBDDnhwg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gran Torino was set in Detroit, the prototypical embodiment of American urban decay. &#8230; The problems that have plagued Detroit for some time now are emerging all across the United States, particularly where states are near bankruptcy and cannot afford to pay for the immediate law enforcement needed to keep people safe. &#8230; Arizona is a good example, especially so with the flood of illegal immigration across its southern border.</p>
<p>We are witnessing the welfare state being pushed to the brink of collapse, particularly in the US. &#8230; Any country that has a gargantuan prison bureaucracy is encumbered with a very costly manifestation of Big Government. &#8230; In times such as these, people need to wrap their head around the virtue of self-government in all aspects of their lives.</p>
<p>Even Robert Kiyosaki, author of New York Times best seller Rich Dad, Poor Dad, is warning people to prepare for the worst and &#8220;buy a gun.&#8221; &#8230; Kiyosaki is not a conspiracy theorist or some quack.</p>
<p>Check it out: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZAzBDDnhwg" >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZAzBDDnhwg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daddy Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daddy Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is a scene in Gran Torino where Clint Eastwood’s character, Walt, is asked why he didn’t call the police instead of confronting a gang outside his house. Walt’s response, “Well you know, I prayed for them to come but nobody answered. …&quot;

So Walt doesn&#039;t own a phone? Has no fingers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is a scene in Gran Torino where Clint Eastwood’s character, Walt, is asked why he didn’t call the police instead of confronting a gang outside his house. Walt’s response, “Well you know, I prayed for them to come but nobody answered. …&#8221;</p>
<p>So Walt doesn&#8217;t own a phone? Has no fingers?</p>
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