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	<title>Comments on: Liberals Look to 2006 Strategy After 2008 Disaster?</title>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying to get federal Liberal votes in Alberta right now would be like getting klansmen to volunteer for ACORN.  I think they&#039;re priority will be the swing votes in the 519, and in BC.

Again, the biggest issue they should hammer the conservatives on is the record deficits and the speed with which they went from surpluses to record deficits.  I&#039;m not going to debate the merits of these arguments since the economy tanked but I think that this issue has the best optics for them to pull votes from the conservatives.

The real problem with the Liberals is the leadership.  First Dion, now Ignatief lack the credibility to match up with Harper.  Even though its a party system, the focus will always be on the leader.

Who knew Harper could sing?  If he had pulled that stunt earlier, he might have taken down Paul Martin sooner:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying to get federal Liberal votes in Alberta right now would be like getting klansmen to volunteer for ACORN.  I think they&#8217;re priority will be the swing votes in the 519, and in BC.</p>
<p>Again, the biggest issue they should hammer the conservatives on is the record deficits and the speed with which they went from surpluses to record deficits.  I&#8217;m not going to debate the merits of these arguments since the economy tanked but I think that this issue has the best optics for them to pull votes from the conservatives.</p>
<p>The real problem with the Liberals is the leadership.  First Dion, now Ignatief lack the credibility to match up with Harper.  Even though its a party system, the focus will always be on the leader.</p>
<p>Who knew Harper could sing?  If he had pulled that stunt earlier, he might have taken down Paul Martin sooner:)</p>
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		<title>By: c</title>
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		<dc:creator>c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hitting back at an absolutely damning development&quot;

What is it in particular that was &quot;absolutely damning&quot;? If you can supply quotes, all the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hitting back at an absolutely damning development&#8221;</p>
<p>What is it in particular that was &#8220;absolutely damning&#8221;? If you can supply quotes, all the better.</p>
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		<title>By: wilson</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee RD, the hardest hit right now is Alberta.
Singing the sorrows of big oil country is going to win Liberals votes?

Everything else you mentioned, they have been doing for months.
Plus cheque-gate, logo-gate, bogybag-gate and war crimes-gate.

The GST reduction is stimulus.
And with the uproar over  the HST in Liberaland, 
that&#039;s the feds defence, they cut the federal portion of the HST.

Now that Climategate-&#039;hide the decline&#039; is world wide,
bringing up Harper&#039;s call that Kyoto was a socialist money grab from wealthy nations, might help him.

No, the Libs will have to go all nasty and call Harper fat, or a Beatles wanna-be or....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee RD, the hardest hit right now is Alberta.<br />
Singing the sorrows of big oil country is going to win Liberals votes?</p>
<p>Everything else you mentioned, they have been doing for months.<br />
Plus cheque-gate, logo-gate, bogybag-gate and war crimes-gate.</p>
<p>The GST reduction is stimulus.<br />
And with the uproar over  the HST in Liberaland,<br />
that&#8217;s the feds defence, they cut the federal portion of the HST.</p>
<p>Now that Climategate-&#8217;hide the decline&#8217; is world wide,<br />
bringing up Harper&#8217;s call that Kyoto was a socialist money grab from wealthy nations, might help him.</p>
<p>No, the Libs will have to go all nasty and call Harper fat, or a Beatles wanna-be or&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taxes, jobs and stability.  Don&#039;t forget the deficit.
If I were in the liberal war room, I&#039;d try to make this election about the economy.  If they make it about the torture issue, without having all of the facts, it&#039;s a crap shoot.  Maybe we&#039;ll find out that the government had no idea what was happening in Afghanistan.  Even if they did, it&#039;s going to be denied infinitely since nobody would admit to sending people to their deaths.

They should make this about the economy.
55.9 billion as a deficit is a hard fact.  
Flaherty revising the deficit 3 times is a fact. and it made him look incompetent.
Reducing the GST and demonstrating how that has impacted the deficit would also be a better angle to use than to simply talk about raising taxes.

If the Liberals have a chance to gain ground, it will not come from targeting the suddenly less wooden Stephen Harper (who apparently likes to get high with a little help from his friends).
Target Flaherty, point to the economy, make comparisons between Flaherty and Paul Martin and scream bloody murder that it&#039;s the fault of the conservatives and swing votes could be gained.  Unemployment is up across the board nowadays, not just in Ontario and managing the economy will resonate with voters.  

Just some armchair quarterbacking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taxes, jobs and stability.  Don&#8217;t forget the deficit.<br />
If I were in the liberal war room, I&#8217;d try to make this election about the economy.  If they make it about the torture issue, without having all of the facts, it&#8217;s a crap shoot.  Maybe we&#8217;ll find out that the government had no idea what was happening in Afghanistan.  Even if they did, it&#8217;s going to be denied infinitely since nobody would admit to sending people to their deaths.</p>
<p>They should make this about the economy.<br />
55.9 billion as a deficit is a hard fact.<br />
Flaherty revising the deficit 3 times is a fact. and it made him look incompetent.<br />
Reducing the GST and demonstrating how that has impacted the deficit would also be a better angle to use than to simply talk about raising taxes.</p>
<p>If the Liberals have a chance to gain ground, it will not come from targeting the suddenly less wooden Stephen Harper (who apparently likes to get high with a little help from his friends).<br />
Target Flaherty, point to the economy, make comparisons between Flaherty and Paul Martin and scream bloody murder that it&#8217;s the fault of the conservatives and swing votes could be gained.  Unemployment is up across the board nowadays, not just in Ontario and managing the economy will resonate with voters.  </p>
<p>Just some armchair quarterbacking.</p>
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