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	<title>Comments on: Stay out of Cuba</title>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
		<link>http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2009/11/20/stay-out-of-cuba/comment-page-1/#comment-214016</link>
		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Travellers who go to Cuba usually load their suit cases with old clothes, toys, makeup and other simple things that the locals have no access to.  
Furthermore, when you give gratuities at these resorts, you are placing money in the hands of an actual Cuban, not Fidel Castro.
Given the trade embargo, tourists travelling to Cuba have actually done more for Cubans than conservatives who fold their arms and do absolutely nothing.  It&#039;s been how many years since the revolution?  Has the embargo worked?  Who do you think suffers from the embargo?  The communist elites?

The other beautiful thing about travelling to Cuba is that the place is devoid of Americans and judging by the responses here, conservatives.!

Buenos noches amigos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Travellers who go to Cuba usually load their suit cases with old clothes, toys, makeup and other simple things that the locals have no access to.<br />
Furthermore, when you give gratuities at these resorts, you are placing money in the hands of an actual Cuban, not Fidel Castro.<br />
Given the trade embargo, tourists travelling to Cuba have actually done more for Cubans than conservatives who fold their arms and do absolutely nothing.  It&#8217;s been how many years since the revolution?  Has the embargo worked?  Who do you think suffers from the embargo?  The communist elites?</p>
<p>The other beautiful thing about travelling to Cuba is that the place is devoid of Americans and judging by the responses here, conservatives.!</p>
<p>Buenos noches amigos.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan McLeod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan McLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always felt the same way, Charles.

By the way, what do you have against contract&#039;ns?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always felt the same way, Charles.</p>
<p>By the way, what do you have against contract&#8217;ns?</p>
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		<title>By: mahmood</title>
		<link>http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2009/11/20/stay-out-of-cuba/comment-page-1/#comment-213956</link>
		<dc:creator>mahmood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we should hold an inquiry on Cuba.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we should hold an inquiry on Cuba.</p>
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		<title>By: balbulican</title>
		<link>http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2009/11/20/stay-out-of-cuba/comment-page-1/#comment-213955</link>
		<dc:creator>balbulican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love these authoritative pronouncements on Cuba from ideologues who&#039;ve never been there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love these authoritative pronouncements on Cuba from ideologues who&#8217;ve never been there.</p>
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		<title>By: Philanthropist</title>
		<link>http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2009/11/20/stay-out-of-cuba/comment-page-1/#comment-213954</link>
		<dc:creator>Philanthropist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Castro brothers private island comes complete with cheap slaves, they even resorted to selling young girls until the lamestream media could no longer ignore it, people who go there for vacation know what they&#039;re supporting, evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Castro brothers private island comes complete with cheap slaves, they even resorted to selling young girls until the lamestream media could no longer ignore it, people who go there for vacation know what they&#8217;re supporting, evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Torture:to afflict with severe pain of body or mind. Are you saying that sleep depravation and water boarding don&#039;t fall under that definition? What would you call these acts of &quot;torture&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torture:to afflict with severe pain of body or mind. Are you saying that sleep depravation and water boarding don&#8217;t fall under that definition? What would you call these acts of &#8220;torture&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: balbulican</title>
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		<dc:creator>balbulican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But were the Abu Ghraib victims tortured? No.&quot;

That&#039;s an interesting assertion, given that some inmates died. Could you expand on that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But were the Abu Ghraib victims tortured? No.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s an interesting assertion, given that some inmates died. Could you expand on that?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Peters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Torture is a relative concept, Matt.  Some people draw the line in markedly different places than others.  That&#039;s why I can label some types of &quot;torture&quot; &quot;milk-mild,&quot; while others would consider them way over the top.  It&#039;s precisely why I have to put the word &#039;torture&#039; in quotes.

Take interrogation techniques, such as sleep deprivation.  There are those who label it torture. I do not.  Waterboarding? Again, no label here, despite the Hitchens drama, but labels over there. 

Or how about a prime example of American-style &quot;torture&quot; writ large: Abu Ghraib. The prisoners were abused and I am glad the perpetrators have been tried and met justice.  (There&#039;s a tangent here about who&#039;s bringing the Commies of Cuba to justice, but we&#039;ll let it go for now.) But were the Abu Ghraib victims tortured?  No.

It&#039;s about where you/me/we draw the line.

So, I&#039;m sorry you&#039;re disappointed in me but what can I say -- at least part of what is called torture today isn&#039;t torture in my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torture is a relative concept, Matt.  Some people draw the line in markedly different places than others.  That&#8217;s why I can label some types of &#8220;torture&#8221; &#8220;milk-mild,&#8221; while others would consider them way over the top.  It&#8217;s precisely why I have to put the word &#8216;torture&#8217; in quotes.</p>
<p>Take interrogation techniques, such as sleep deprivation.  There are those who label it torture. I do not.  Waterboarding? Again, no label here, despite the Hitchens drama, but labels over there. </p>
<p>Or how about a prime example of American-style &#8220;torture&#8221; writ large: Abu Ghraib. The prisoners were abused and I am glad the perpetrators have been tried and met justice.  (There&#8217;s a tangent here about who&#8217;s bringing the Commies of Cuba to justice, but we&#8217;ll let it go for now.) But were the Abu Ghraib victims tortured?  No.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about where you/me/we draw the line.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;m sorry you&#8217;re disappointed in me but what can I say &#8212; at least part of what is called torture today isn&#8217;t torture in my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for my poor grammar and spelling I&#039;m responding with limited time using tiny buttons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for my poor grammar and spelling I&#8217;m responding with limited time using tiny buttons.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles I like that too

mark it&#039;s dissapointing to hear someone label any kind of torture milk mild. I would also think if the current administration think that some torture photos are to &quot;bad&quot; to be released it is necesarrily milk mild.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles I like that too</p>
<p>mark it&#8217;s dissapointing to hear someone label any kind of torture milk mild. I would also think if the current administration think that some torture photos are to &#8220;bad&#8221; to be released it is necesarrily milk mild.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles, 
I like that advice.  Short and to the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles,<br />
I like that advice.  Short and to the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mom and dad always said,&quot;Never travel to a country where the locals can&#039;t get on the plane and leave with you.&quot;
My sister made the mistake of booking her honeymoon in Cuba and my dad would not speak to her for two years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mom and dad always said,&#8221;Never travel to a country where the locals can&#8217;t get on the plane and leave with you.&#8221;<br />
My sister made the mistake of booking her honeymoon in Cuba and my dad would not speak to her for two years.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Peters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, that should have been American &quot;torture&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, that should have been American &#8220;torture&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Peters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROFL @ Matt.

American torture is milk-mild compared to the torture meted out by Communist and Islamic regimes the world over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROFL @ Matt.</p>
<p>American torture is milk-mild compared to the torture meted out by Communist and Islamic regimes the world over.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is the US any better they kidnap (rendition) and torture people. Or Canada for that matter a country that has assigned &quot;free speech zones&quot; ( in the case of the Vancouver olympics). Also Canada may or may not hand people over to be tortured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is the US any better they kidnap (rendition) and torture people. Or Canada for that matter a country that has assigned &#8220;free speech zones&#8221; ( in the case of the Vancouver olympics). Also Canada may or may not hand people over to be tortured.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Hoffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree fully. If I want to go somewhere tropical, it will be Hawaii.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree fully. If I want to go somewhere tropical, it will be Hawaii.</p>
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