Comments on: Congratulations, Buzz! http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2008/06/03/congratulations-buzz-hargrove/ Conservative group weblog that publishes daily commentary on political events and topics affecting Canada, the United States and the world. Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:22:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Charles Anthony http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2008/06/03/congratulations-buzz-hargrove/#comment-181633 Charles Anthony Wed, 04 Jun 2008 10:11:44 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/?p=3325#comment-181633 Josh, It sounds like you get to buy American vehicles at less than retail prices..... family pricing, perhaps? You certainly sound like you have been inhaling too much of the ink on their freshly printed promotional pamphlets. Pretending that GM cars are superior and that they are victims of trade embargoes is bad comedy. I am not putting the blame of the closing on Buzz Hargrove. I am just throwing salt on his wound. I believe he deserves it. The end of his career as a union leader should be marked with abysmal failure. He was hired and paid to negotiate employment contracts. All he did was bring false hope when he should have known better. Now, what will the next CAW leader do? Promise pies in the sky??? Josh,
It sounds like you get to buy American vehicles at less than retail prices….. family pricing, perhaps?
You certainly sound like you have been inhaling too much of the ink on their freshly printed promotional pamphlets.
Pretending that GM cars are superior and that they are victims of trade embargoes is bad comedy.

I am not putting the blame of the closing on Buzz Hargrove. I am just throwing salt on his wound. I believe he deserves it. The end of his career as a union leader should be marked with abysmal failure. He was hired and paid to negotiate employment contracts. All he did was bring false hope when he should have known better.

Now, what will the next CAW leader do?
Promise pies in the sky???

]]> By: Josh Glover http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2008/06/03/congratulations-buzz-hargrove/#comment-181623 Josh Glover Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:36:17 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/?p=3325#comment-181623 Ronnie, it sounds like you got a nice fancy desk job..... Let me tell you one thing that i guess you didnt read about, the reason why G.M was failing is because of uneven trade embargos placed against North American Auto products, research that. It also has to do with the price of fuel, and how the Canadian government has not adressed the rising canadian dollar which is effecting all industries across Canada. Another point you made which proves how uneducated you are about the topic, is that G.M products are low quality. the G.M plant in Oshawa won dozens awards for its productivity and effieciency....bad G.M products? Toyota has a 1-3 turnover rate....How can you say G.M's buisuness practices are poor when they are the number 1 auto producer in the world? its an uneven market that has enabled G.M's downfall.....your a goof go buy a toyota and vote harper, or just watch the news for 10 minutes. Ronnie, it sounds like you got a nice fancy desk job….. Let me tell you one thing that i guess you didnt read about, the reason why G.M was failing is because of uneven trade embargos placed against North American Auto products, research that. It also has to do with the price of fuel, and how the Canadian government has not adressed the rising canadian dollar which is effecting all industries across Canada. Another point you made which proves how uneducated you are about the topic, is that G.M products are low quality. the G.M plant in Oshawa won dozens awards for its productivity and effieciency….bad G.M products? Toyota has a 1-3 turnover rate….How can you say G.M’s buisuness practices are poor when they are the number 1 auto producer in the world? its an uneven market that has enabled G.M’s downfall…..your a goof go buy a toyota and vote harper, or just watch the news for 10 minutes.

]]> By: Ronnie Roth http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2008/06/03/congratulations-buzz-hargrove/#comment-181617 Ronnie Roth Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:29:31 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/?p=3325#comment-181617 That's right, how Liberal of you to blame the Federal Government for the brutally poor business practises of GM. When you overpay workers, provide low quality, highly overpriced products, what you get is business failure. If an autoworker ever picked up an economics report or took their head out of their overpaid bottoms for 10 minutes and watched the news, they would have known the North American auto sector was tumbling. I hope the federal government pulls all grants and funding from GM and puts it into something more worthy like health care and education. Buzz Hargrove is finally resembling the joke he really is!! That’s right, how Liberal of you to blame the Federal Government for the brutally poor business practises of GM.

When you overpay workers, provide low quality, highly overpriced products, what you get is business failure. If an autoworker ever picked up an economics report or took their head out of their overpaid bottoms for 10 minutes and watched the news, they would have known the North American auto sector was tumbling.

I hope the federal government pulls all grants and funding from GM and puts it into something more worthy like health care and education.

Buzz Hargrove is finally resembling the joke he really is!!

]]> By: Josh Glover http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2008/06/03/congratulations-buzz-hargrove/#comment-181611 Josh Glover Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:38:50 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/?p=3325#comment-181611 How can you possibly put the blame of the Oshawa truck plant closing on Buzz Hargrove? Ok i agree, in his tenure as union leader he has been awfully soft. But the agreement he reached with General Motors two weeks ago was a master piece given GM's current situation and in comparison to the pact the UAW signed a while back. G.M backstabbed the union, this closure is illegal and should be brought to court. In the agreement the CAW signed, G.M is required to inform the union if they were going to relieve any more jobs in the Oshawa plant. I personally believe that G.M knew they were closing the plant before they signed the agreement. So to try and say that this is Buzz Hargroves fault is ridiculus. For years buzz has lobbied to re-instate the Auto-pact in Canada, but the Conservatives have sat idly by and enabled all of these job losses to continue. This closure has less to do with Buzz but more to do with the ignorance of our current federal government. How can you possibly put the blame of the Oshawa truck plant closing on Buzz Hargrove? Ok i agree, in his tenure as union leader he has been awfully soft. But the agreement he reached with General Motors two weeks ago was a master piece given GM’s current situation and in comparison to the pact the UAW signed a while back.

G.M backstabbed the union, this closure is illegal and should be brought to court. In the agreement the CAW signed, G.M is required to inform the union if they were going to relieve any more jobs in the Oshawa plant.

I personally believe that G.M knew they were closing the plant before they signed the agreement. So to try and say that this is Buzz Hargroves fault is ridiculus. For years buzz has lobbied to re-instate the Auto-pact in Canada, but the Conservatives have sat idly by and enabled all of these job losses to continue.

This closure has less to do with Buzz but more to do with the ignorance of our current federal government.

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