Comments on: Dion’s Carbon Tax: As Neutral As The CBC…

By: JF

JF — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:26:35 +0000

I just cannot understand the number of naive people who actually are in favour of this stupid tax, just like any other tax. The GST was supposed to solve all our problems - all it did was fill government coffers and empty mine! Same with Ontario’s OHIP premium (tax) - it hasn’t done anything to make hospital lineups shorter or increase the number of doctors. When are Canadians going to wake up and smell the lies. Get rid of as much tax as humanly possible - then, when you’ve cut absolutely all you can, cut some more! And isn’t it interesting that there’s so much hoopla to cut 1% of the GST but if they have to introduce the GST, it’s done in one swoop (7%), not 1% at a time over a few years. Canadians, put some brains one for crying out loud - stop listening to these lying politicians!

By: Matthew

Matthew — Thu, 22 May 2008 03:54:33 +0000

Scott, how about you and your kin get more than 20% in a general election then you can come back and *think* about talking about speaking for everybody out there…

By: Scott from Winnipeg

Scott from Winnipeg — Wed, 21 May 2008 17:17:31 +0000

As you make it abundantly clear, my question about whether you realize nobody takes you seriously was rhetorical.

By: Matthew

Matthew — Tue, 20 May 2008 23:33:58 +0000

Thanks for answering the question Scott!

By: Charles Anthony

Charles Anthony — Tue, 20 May 2008 14:42:09 +0000

Abattoir,
The proponents of “climate change” are stepping outside of the realm of science. Rightly or wrongly, they are conflating it with politics. I will not deny their right to do so however, the onus is on them to make their case convincing. They have not succeeded.

Unless the science is convincing, there is no point discussing it any more than discussing religion.

By: Scott from Winnipeg

Scott from Winnipeg — Tue, 20 May 2008 01:19:32 +0000

“Christianity claims to be an absolute truth by the authority of an all-knowing, all-powerful and all-encompassing God”

Oh, riggggght.

You got that from a book you read, right? The bible I think? A book written by flesh-and-blood, whose stories can be traced back to their pagan origins, amongst others?

Yes, I can see why the burden of proof would not apply.

Rats, I’m an atheist now? I guess I should let my wife and folks know.

By: Matthew

Matthew — Mon, 19 May 2008 23:55:45 +0000

Abattoir, accept my apologies then.

Scott, I still haven’t seen you explain where the very first particle came from, and aside from that, Christianity claims to be an absolute truth by the authority of an all-knowing, all-powerful and all-encompassing God who created all things, by what authority do you speak on behalf of as an atheist?

By: Abattoir

Abattoir — Mon, 19 May 2008 23:44:59 +0000

Matthew,
My point was simply that this is not a place where it is possible to have a meaningful discussion regarding Dion’s carbon tax plans. You do not believe in the science of climate change; therefore, it is safe to assume that you will not support Dion’s plans, no matter how they are implemented.

By: Scott from Winnipeg

Scott from Winnipeg — Mon, 19 May 2008 21:14:48 +0000

…unless it’s a discussion about the existence of God, right Matty? We all know that in THAT case, it’s up to dissenters (heathens) to prove that he DOESN’T.

Are you getting any closer to understanding why nobody (save for yourself) takes you seriously?

How’s the smashbros coming boyo?

By: Matthew

Matthew — Mon, 19 May 2008 20:43:41 +0000

Abattoir, once again I’d like to point out that it is not the job of everyone out there to accept the scientific hypotheses put out by people by yourself, but it is your job to convince us of why your assertions are the correct presumptions. The Left certainly doesn’t have a monopoly on thought, as much as it likes to believe it does!

By: Abattoir

Abattoir — Mon, 19 May 2008 20:27:28 +0000

Any reasonable discussion on this topic here at this time is completely impossible, because:
a) the posters do not recognize the science of climate change; and
b) the Liberals have not yet released the details of their plan.

Hyperbole about $17B in taxes and little old ladies huddling in the corner is not worth the time it takes to write it, at least until we can read the proposal and have a meaningful discussion about its merits.

In general, however, I have to say I agree with the concept of increasing taxes on something we want to reduce (carbon emissions), and decreasing taxes on salaries. I will wait until I see the actual proposal before I make up my mind, and I suggest you do the same.

By: Carole

Carole — Mon, 19 May 2008 13:23:10 +0000

Funny isn’t it how in QP all the libs were frieking out about Harper making an announcemnet about his 20 year plan for the military that no one knew anything about…but the libs can make an announcement about this stupid carbon tax without anyone seeing any documentation about its content and that’s ok??

By: The Right

The Right — Mon, 19 May 2008 02:00:07 +0000

Mr.Dion Carbon tax will be has revenue neutral as Mr.Jack Layton is right wing. The GST was supposed to be revenue neutral,and we all know how that turned out anything but…

I have seen numbers has high has 17 billion $ from a carbon tax. If it should be “revenue neutral” then
Mr.Dion would have to decrease our income by 17 billion $.

Let us say that Canadians would stop buying gas,heat their homes differently,because carbon tax is supposed to change Canadians habit.

This my liberal friends would spell a big deficit in our federal budget ,because they wouldn’t collect the 17 billion $ and yet the federal government would have to lower our income by 17 billion $. This is why I don’t buy this notion of revenue neutral.

I did my rounds on Fantasy world I.E.liblogs everytime I criticized this propose plan from Mr.Dion they tell me to wait and see before I say anything about it. But they sure have no problems of approving this plan even though they haven’t seen it either. Just seems funny to me thats all. Good post by the way.

By: Aviator

Aviator — Mon, 19 May 2008 01:36:10 +0000

Many good points, but the tax on children was a spoof, like the zebras losing their stripes and ’second-hand alcohol’. They just were poking fun at the ludicrous things claimed by the Global Warming crowd. CO2 is a bureaucrat/tax collector’s dream in that it is invisible and essential to all life on this planet - and no one has yet found it to be harmful in concentrations of less than 5000 parts per million (ppm) and not fatal until 15000 ppm (and it is currently about 387 ppm), in fact, plants love both it and warmth!

By: William

William — Mon, 19 May 2008 01:21:26 +0000

Would someone ask Mr. Suzuki…

Why does Dion think his job is to CHANGE MY lifestyle?
Why is MY lifestyle to be taxed into oblivion?

Why can China build 500+ coal-fired energy plants, but Ontario isn’t allowed to build 5?

Why is energy from coal good for the Chinese, but bad for Canadians?

Does burning coal in Canada cause global warming? ..while burning coal in China does NOT.

and one more thing…

Is there a global warming crisis or not?