Comments on: Did the TTC Just Kill It’s Sweet Public-Private Partnership Deal? http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2008/04/26/did-the-ttc-just-kill-its-sweet-public-private-partnership-deal/ Conservative group weblog that publishes daily commentary on political events and topics affecting Canada, the United States and the world. Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:38:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Lord Kitchener's Own http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2008/04/26/did-the-ttc-just-kill-its-sweet-public-private-partnership-deal/#comment-180974 Lord Kitchener's Own Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:25:23 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/?p=3254#comment-180974 It's worth noting that once the TTC is deemed to be an essential service (if that happens) they'll probably end up getting BETTER contracts in the future, not worse. That's because arbitrated contracts almost always favour the workers (in part because arbitrators are sympathetic to the fact that the workers have no recourse against their employers). Rarely do negotiations that end up in arbitration favour the employer, and as an essential service, any time there couldn't be a negotiated agreement (which would be EVERY time) it would go to arbitration. Not that this is an argument against declaring the TTC an essential service. I'd frankly rather pay to keep this type of disruption from ever happening again, but people should realize that declaring the TTC essential won't make their next contract less generous. It could even make the next contract BETTER for the union. It’s worth noting that once the TTC is deemed to be an essential service (if that happens) they’ll probably end up getting BETTER contracts in the future, not worse. That’s because arbitrated contracts almost always favour the workers (in part because arbitrators are sympathetic to the fact that the workers have no recourse against their employers). Rarely do negotiations that end up in arbitration favour the employer, and as an essential service, any time there couldn’t be a negotiated agreement (which would be EVERY time) it would go to arbitration.

Not that this is an argument against declaring the TTC an essential service. I’d frankly rather pay to keep this type of disruption from ever happening again, but people should realize that declaring the TTC essential won’t make their next contract less generous.

It could even make the next contract BETTER for the union.

]]> By: dalton http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2008/04/26/did-the-ttc-just-kill-its-sweet-public-private-partnership-deal/#comment-180972 dalton Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:26:43 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/?p=3254#comment-180972 Hi, Matthew. Sorry to bother you. But you indicated below that I had "been the one selectively choosing when to debate the past year." I assure you I am VERY interested in debate, and I'd like to point out that there are now two questions waiting for your response in the threads below: there's a questions about your statistics in the "Expelled Opening Weekend" thread, and a question about "proof" in the "Canada's Biggest Mistake" thread. Looking forward to your responses. Hi, Matthew. Sorry to bother you. But you indicated below that I had “been the one selectively choosing when to debate the past year.” I assure you I am VERY interested in debate, and I’d like to point out that there are now two questions waiting for your response in the threads below: there’s a questions about your statistics in the “Expelled Opening Weekend” thread, and a question about “proof” in the “Canada’s Biggest Mistake” thread.

Looking forward to your responses.

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