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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;We Believe That There Should be Limits on Freedom of Expression&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Adam Dyck</title>
		<link>http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2008/04/05/we-believe-that-there-should-be-limits-on-freedom-of-expression/#comment-180569</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Dyck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things like holocaust awareness: Everyone knows about the holocaust, nobody's going to take seriously claims that it didn't happen or that it "wasn't that bad", and yet countries like Germany and France have laws in place to prevent people speaking out in that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things like holocaust awareness: Everyone knows about the holocaust, nobody&#8217;s going to take seriously claims that it didn&#8217;t happen or that it &#8220;wasn&#8217;t that bad&#8221;, and yet countries like Germany and France have laws in place to prevent people speaking out in that way.</p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
		<link>http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2008/04/05/we-believe-that-there-should-be-limits-on-freedom-of-expression/#comment-180539</link>
		<dc:creator>C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 02:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam: I'm sorry if I misread your intentions in this posting: if you meant to write Jewish ativism issues, rather than Jews, which particular Jewish activism issues did you have in mind as being fashionable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam: I&#8217;m sorry if I misread your intentions in this posting: if you meant to write Jewish ativism issues, rather than Jews, which particular Jewish activism issues did you have in mind as being fashionable?</p>
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		<title>By: Caveman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caveman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 00:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Balance can only be achieved on the free market of ideas.  Government has absolutely no business interfering in the free market, be it of goods and services or of ideas.  Bureaucrats and politicians are the absolutely worst judges of anything other than their own entitlements to petty power and its rewards.  HRCs are an affront to human intelligence, and those who support them are incredibly objectionable cretins whose offspring should be sterilized lest that particular strain of imbecility is passed on to future generations.

Pierre Elliot Trudeau, I hope you're suffering in the hell expounded by all monotheistic religions from the highest pulpits, because you've certainly turned Canada from a sensible country to an incredibly ugly version of politically correct hell by inventing that most despicable of all instutions, the HRCs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Balance can only be achieved on the free market of ideas.  Government has absolutely no business interfering in the free market, be it of goods and services or of ideas.  Bureaucrats and politicians are the absolutely worst judges of anything other than their own entitlements to petty power and its rewards.  HRCs are an affront to human intelligence, and those who support them are incredibly objectionable cretins whose offspring should be sterilized lest that particular strain of imbecility is passed on to future generations.</p>
<p>Pierre Elliot Trudeau, I hope you&#8217;re suffering in the hell expounded by all monotheistic religions from the highest pulpits, because you&#8217;ve certainly turned Canada from a sensible country to an incredibly ugly version of politically correct hell by inventing that most despicable of all instutions, the HRCs.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Shaidle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Shaidle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I don't care much for the idea of "society" trying to "achieve a balance".

What would this balance look like and how would it be "achieved"? 

Like "fair" prices and wages, this balance is too subjective to be measurable and controllable. It isn't like there's a giant social thermostat...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t care much for the idea of &#8220;society&#8221; trying to &#8220;achieve a balance&#8221;.</p>
<p>What would this balance look like and how would it be &#8220;achieved&#8221;? </p>
<p>Like &#8220;fair&#8221; prices and wages, this balance is too subjective to be measurable and controllable. It isn&#8217;t like there&#8217;s a giant social thermostat&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Dyck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Dyck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C: The expression of his that is being "limited" could hardly be considered a Jewish activism issue. 

Grog: It crosses the line when it stops being words. Not before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C: The expression of his that is being &#8220;limited&#8221; could hardly be considered a Jewish activism issue. </p>
<p>Grog: It crosses the line when it stops being words. Not before.</p>
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		<title>By: Grog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask yourself this:  When does someone's "freedom of expression" begin to impinge upon the rights of others?  

For example, should it be "protected expression" to call for violence against an arbitrary group of people?  Or, at that point in time, has the "freedom" begun to impinge upon the legitimate rights of others?

I've argued before that individual rights - including freedom of expression - exist in a state of tension with the legitimate rights of others.  

No right is an absolute, for if it were, it could easily be abused.  The real question you should be asking yourself is what is the balance point between the competing rights involved, and how should we as a society achieve that balance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask yourself this:  When does someone&#8217;s &#8220;freedom of expression&#8221; begin to impinge upon the rights of others?  </p>
<p>For example, should it be &#8220;protected expression&#8221; to call for violence against an arbitrary group of people?  Or, at that point in time, has the &#8220;freedom&#8221; begun to impinge upon the legitimate rights of others?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve argued before that individual rights - including freedom of expression - exist in a state of tension with the legitimate rights of others.  </p>
<p>No right is an absolute, for if it were, it could easily be abused.  The real question you should be asking yourself is what is the balance point between the competing rights involved, and how should we as a society achieve that balance?</p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
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		<dc:creator>C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 19:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The HRC has no problem with fashionable minorities.
Jews are a fasionable minority.
Ezra Levant is a jew.
Ezra Levant is an unfasionable minority.

No, I give up. I don't follow the logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The HRC has no problem with fashionable minorities.<br />
Jews are a fasionable minority.<br />
Ezra Levant is a jew.<br />
Ezra Levant is an unfasionable minority.</p>
<p>No, I give up. I don&#8217;t follow the logic.</p>
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		<title>By: igloogirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>igloogirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 18:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The arrogance of this SOB is mind boggling.  As if Canadians want this hack deciding for us!  His whole circus MUST be shut down.  Listening Conservative Party of Canada?  Quit asking me to contribute to your fund until you kick these do-nothings to the moon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The arrogance of this SOB is mind boggling.  As if Canadians want this hack deciding for us!  His whole circus MUST be shut down.  Listening Conservative Party of Canada?  Quit asking me to contribute to your fund until you kick these do-nothings to the moon!</p>
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