Civilized Dialogue - The Thomas Mulcair Story

Thomas Mulcair, the lone NDP MP from Quebec, probably has his days numbered after this incident. This is one of those *where to begin* cases for me, and it really looks badly on all parties in the House.

Personally, I really, really wish that MPs of all stripes would stop heckling — it does nothing to help anyone’s cause and makes the House look like a collection of baboons. That goes for Conservative MPs as well!

On top of that, I’m currently toying with the idea or value of whether the House should lift at least some of the coverage that MPs enjoy from defamation laws, such as not protecting MPs who make such statements during Question Period, or if something is defamatory, having the Speaker make the offending MP retract their question immediately. I think it might go a long way to bringing civility back into the House since it would eliminate a lot of the ridiculous statements that are embedded in QP questions (and which ultimately make it onto the evening news and broadsheets).

Finally, I think we have to take note of the fact that the Mulcair incident came from the NDP. This is criticism for my socialist colleagues, but it should be noted that I’ve seen Tories act just as shamefully (and I’m sure the Liberals do too, although I haven’t witnessed any events that come to mind) on occasion. However, the collective younger, organized (/unionized) or online New Democrats have a long and proud history of acting just as shamefully as the Outremont MP did this week.

I am not sure of what the motives truly are in each case, but it does come off to the outsider as being very self-righteous and dogmatic — terms that the group probably wouldn’t like to be associated with but frankly fit quite nicely. If you read the article about Mulcair, you’ll discover that he’s trying to protect a man that he feels is going to encounter great harm once deported back to his native land because he practices sodomy. This is a cause that, if true, I would support; no one should physically suffer at the hands of government or private citizens for such reasons and I respect Mulcair bringing this before the house. Where he goes over the line though is when he start implying that disagreeing with him not only makes one a homophobe but a racist — as he did with with the Tory MPs present. It demonstrates the lack of respect that many New Democrats have for opposing points of view or interpretations of the issue/situation in question. Read around the Liblogs or Blogging Tories; we have our faults but many of us (sadly not all) at least appreciate that other parties are ultimately trying to help the country/it’s citizenry even if we personally feel that they don’t see the whole picture or are misguided.

To suggest though that disagreeing with a political opinion automatically makes you retarded (or a “knuckle dragger”, which is the same thing in my book) or a war criminal, or anything else that the New Democrats in particular like to label opponents as is not just unhealthy for democracy but unhealthy for peace…something that many New Democrats have a heart-felt desire for.

Again, I’ll state that most of us (self included) on the Tory side are not innocent of breaking these rules in moments of weakness, however in our defence, we generally show an appreciation for the fact that not everyone thinks exactly as we do and that productive dialogue can occur if we stop making every opponent into the mindless monsters of our greatest bane.




Comments (8) to “Civilized Dialogue - The Thomas Mulcair Story”

  1. you, sir, are full of shit. it is a well known fact that conservative MP’s are the loudest and most obnoxious hecklers in the house….not to mention the most intolerant.

    to suggest otherwise only shows how horribly deluded your blind partisanship has made you.

  2. “Personally, I really, really wish that MPs of all stripes would stop heckling — it does nothing to help anyone’s cause and makes the House look like a collection of baboons. That goes for Conservative MPs as well!”

    I agree!!

    We would not tolerate this kind of behaviour from our children, why do our elected officials get away with it.

    And Jeff - please provide Proof of your allegations.

  3. “you, sir, are full of shit. it is a well known fact that conservative MP’s are the loudest and most obnoxious hecklers in the house….not to mention the most intolerant.

    to suggest otherwise only shows how horribly deluded your blind partisanship has made you.”

    Says the “House of Commons-like” heckler from his keyboard.

  4. Is Mulcair a homosexual? Perhaps that would explain his overreaction.

  5. Bruce, apparently not (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_J._Mulcair); it just seems like he let the passion he has for the issue get the best of him.

    Thanks for proving my point though Jeff!

  6. Didn’t Keddy vote FOR ssm.
    If you need an example of a iberal MP, in opposition acting unladylike, find the clip of Sheila Copps climbing over benches to get to John Crosbie.

  7. How can the Conservatives expect this from a community that is outraged? There was civilised dialogue, letter writing, and the pursuit of legal options, yet after all of these steps have been taken this issue keeps falling on deaf ears, and the affected community essentially recieves the silent treatment from the right. It is no wonder that emotion is present and bubbling to the surface on this issue for many– including myself.

  8. http://dose.canada.com/news/st.....a7366f2e29
    From the Colonist article:
    “In Canada a refugee falls into categories grouped as religion, nationality or membership of a particular social group or political opinion.

    It is the “particular social group” that experts feel should be expanded to a separate category for sexual orientation.”

    “This debate will become civil when Canada’s Immigration and Refugee Board Adjudicators follow specific guidlines for the determination of sexual orientation.”

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