>because they don’t want to have to look at most men’s bodies.

is a rather ugly and sexist statement, no?

Someone please tell me why it’s okay to denigrate men freely. You *really* ought to be ashamed of yourself, such willing self-loathing is repugnant.

In most facilities a certain change room etiquette governs behaviour, even for those who get some sexual excitement from such environs. And most likely, such etiquette is reinforced by the sameness of body kinds, that is, the sex features of either all men or all women; everybody has the same equipment. Mix that up and you are necessarily sexualizing the change room to an extent most decent people would not appreciate.

As Bill Clinton once rested his defence upon, sex is a specific act, specific to a man with a woman; blow jobs not included. In the absence of such clear definition, expansive definitions of sex are just slippery slope. It’s a safe bet that co-ed showers are bound to encourage sex, an act unique to relations between men and women.

What about homosexual behaviour in change rooms?

Always a possibility, but might I offer that private facilities, independent of state intervention, will enforce good etiquette, etiquette that satisfies their patrons and keeps them coming back rather than turning them off.

Nearly 30,000 petition signatures are being delivered to officials in Montgomery County, Md., demanding that a public vote be held to allow citizens to decide on a law providing special rights to people with “gender identity” issues, including apparently the choice of whether to use men’s or women’s locker rooms and other public facilities.

This is most outrageous for one reason alone: this should not be an issue of the state.

It is the height of arrogance to have the government coerce people over this matter. I want to be compassionate towards people with “gender identity” issues or whatever but there are limits. I have a hell of a lot more compassion for a person in a wheelchair.

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Women are the fairer sex.
I am not too sure I know what that means for everybody but I think it suggests that men can not take women for granted be it in a business, a pleasure or a family setting. All of the examples of inconsistencies that we cite would suggest to me that even the Politically Correct advocates subconsciously accept this.

Seriously, at least the Brits have it honestly. They call such practises “positive discrimination”. In other words, all boy clubs are “negative discrimination”, but one for all girls is because its “positive”. Moving society forward, and all that.

Sorta like what all married men know: “what’s mine is mine, and what’s yours is ours”…

Having spent many years in cadets and fond memories of male and female tent lines, only to find once I was a Civilian Instructor or officer, we had co-ed tent lines (*gasp* shocking after years of segregation). The increase in people having sex multiplied, but that like was because everyone was 18+ and we had access to alcohol.

I just had a similar conversation the other day with my dad. He was discussing a military exercise/trip to Ottawa for his regiment, mentioning that he needs to count the number of females to ensure they have their own hotel room. I kind of laughed, and my dad asked why it was so important (knowing the answer of course). I brought up, “But dad, what if they play for the other team?” (then having to explain the Seinfeld reference). Anyway, it points to what you’re bringing up with hetero/homosexual bathroom facilities (which military doesn’t actually admit exist).

From experience, I was on a business trip for work and travelling with a male colleague. Because it was a budget-constrained program, I was asked if it would be ok if we shared a hotel room, but I told them my boyfriend would likely not be comfortable with that idea. Funny, how they asked me, the woman, but they didn’t ask my male colleague, if it would be ok with him (he had a girlfriend, and agreed that his gf probably wouldn’t like the idea either).

In university residence, we had co-ed bathrooms (shower stalls too) and this posed no problems at all. But we had someone who cleaned it every weekday.