*crickets chirping*

lol!

suggest you look up Hector Avalos, little attack terrier, if you really wish to find out what actual biblical scholars have to say about what evidence supports the stories you find in the babble.

denial is an ugly thing.

oh, i think i’m gonna have some fun over here….

KEvron

ps, “cunt”.

Commie Bob? Are you one of those Boomers who thinks that time stopped in 1959? Zheesh, how lame.

this: there is proven archeological sites indicating that at least some stories in the bible are highly likely to be true.

Meanwhile, the origin of the species is but theory, not proven but merely conjecture.

Because no one has ever dug anything up that resembled past life? Ok…

No worries, tho. We won’t let your nefarious plans get to that point.

Seriously, tho: I’m not the enemy, man. I truly believe we’re all in this crazy experiment together. We just need to understand that and be open to dialogue.

You’ve given me a great idea for my next post thanks! By the way, when we neo-con Christian Theocrats complete our plans for world domination, we promise to let you keep posting here.

Deal?

Bueller?

A: Unfortunately, religion and politics are increasingly intertwined these days.

I sort of subscribe to the posting philosophy that whatever annoys you must be serving a greater good.

*crickets chirping*

Sheesh this is an annoying argument…

We may understand how the world works from a scientific standpoint, but we can never prove, or disprove, the existence of a God. It is better, therefore, to allow that separation to remain pure in all of our endeavours. We may use scientific, mathematical, and philosophical reasoning, and still believe in a God. That is not an internal conflict, but merely a separation of what can be considered “faith”, and the reasoning of human logic and intelligence.

Human logic and intellect tells us that from the science we know and understand, evolution is real. Evolution, geology, biology, radiology, and pretty much any scientific and mathematical formula will tell us that the world appears to be roughly 4.5 billion years old, and the Universe about three times that amount.

That doesn’t mean God doesn’t exist. Holding two apparently contradictory beliefs in one’s head does not disprove one or the other. Charles Darwin also believed in God, and despite his theories, he continued to hope he was wrong until the time of his death. Not only that, whether or not we believe in evolution or the massive and overwhelming scientific evidence of the planetary creation through the nebulous formation of the solar system and the expansion of the Universe, it does not mean there is no deity.

Humans are imperfect, thus we can never know for certain the mysteries of the Universe. It would be presumptuous, therefore, to assume we know for certain there is no God. I will therefore leave my reason to reasoning, and faith to the faithful.

You really do enjoy taking things out of context, don’t you?

TalkOrigins isn’t dismissing the idea that wood floats; it’s pointing out that even modern shipbuilding can’t build wooden ships much more than 300 feet long, two thirds the length of the Ark. The ships simply can’t take the strain without starting to leak.

The Santa Maria, on the other hand, was the largest of Columbus’s ships, and it was 70 feet long. No problem there.

Nerdy, commie monkey. Who can defend his beliefs. And honestly knows yours inside out. (I earned 2 degrees from Bob Jones University.) You can’t say the same.

Hey, you might be nice guys in “real life.” I dunno. But you need to sit down for a good long while and ask yourselves what it means to be intellectually honest.

For one thing, it means being willing to question your own beliefs to see whether they hold water. I don’t see a lot of that going on here.

Cheers.

Boy, that’s an old argument. Haven’t you read the endless rebuttals against the “just a theory” argument already?

BTW, I’m not the Bob in #4. I haven’t called anyone any names. Tho Bob #4 may have a point.

However, Real Conservative, you do not. I never said every single detail in the Bible was fictitious. Many of the stories clearly are tho. Just because the White House appears in Mars Attacks! doesn’t make it non-fiction, tho.

And, hey, I believe Jesus existed, too. But that doesn’t mean the details of his story is accurate. They clearly ain’t. There are too many contradiction in the New Testament for them all to be accurate.

Cool indeed! The Bible is really just another Judy Blume novel. Unfortunately, most university professors that don’t study zebrafish and wax their nostril hair would disagree with this statement. But I am glad that you have no argument with me because I sensed that you were on the verge of utterly destroying me.

“Are doctor’s who are passionate about fighting cancer religious zealots, too?”

Yes, those bastards. Keep them away from my kids.

So, you admit the Bible’s fiction. Cool. We have no argument then.

Are doctor’s who are passionate about fighting cancer religious zealots, too?

You know what is fun? People invading our comboxes to claim with religious zeal that they are fundamentally opposed to religious zeal.

Hey, I didn’t intend this to become the Militant Atheist Assoc. convention location. Blame the “professor”! Peace!

Again. No argument. Just a cliched ad hominem attack.

You need to work on your schtick.

Seriously though. Give the article are read. (Hell, read that whole site.) I’d love to have you come over to our side. We’re actually a nice lot when you get to know us.

You are not only intellectually dishonest. You are a coward.

I guess in that sense, there is hope for humanity. More and more folks are starting to see through these transparently flimsy arguments from Biblical literalists.

I know I did: I used to be a Fundamentalist Baptist Christian.

In fact, I’ll go a step further and say it’d be dead simple to *prove* that much of the Bible is fiction.

Just for one example, anyone who believes that Noah’s Ark is a true story hasn’t even begun to consider it’s plausability.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html

I challenge anyone to read the article above and come away believing the story is anything but fiction. To continue believing it at that point is nothing less than intellectual dishonesty.

As for talking serpents tempting Adam and Eve and humankind getting cursed as a result. Hilarious!!