Comments on: A Response to the Conservative Party’s Request for Donations http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/ Conservative group weblog that publishes daily commentary on political events and topics affecting Canada, the United States and the world. Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:08:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: ThePolitic.com » The Conservatives’ Record http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165444 ThePolitic.com » The Conservatives’ Record Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:46:17 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165444 [...] previous post on the Conservative Party’s approach to fundraising apparently struck a chord in the conservative base.  I received 15 kudos to 2 protests.  That [...] [...] previous post on the Conservative Party’s approach to fundraising apparently struck a chord in the conservative base.  I received 15 kudos to 2 protests.  That [...]

]]> By: DJeffery http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165372 DJeffery Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:56:13 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165372 http://www.am770chqr.com/station/show_rutherford.cfm?REM=78696 In PMSH's interview on CHQR he "was amazed at the number of times he has to repeat himself to get the media to acknowledge he said it." It's disappointing to find Conservatives can be as dense and guilty of listening to the very Liberal media we often complain about. Not that these are all pure conservative ideas, but repetitive media bias seems to be working: street racing democratically extended the Afghanistan mission income splitting for seniors legislation that will make it easier for Canadians to vote Banning corporate and union donations to political parties. Protecting whistle-blowers Enhancing the ability for the Auditor General to “follow the money. Improved marine and border security Gave tax relief to low income working families, Provided a working tax benefit, Allotted funds for more debt reduction, Added a registered disability saving plan, Alloted more funds for farmers. Introduced a workable environment Green Plan Redressed the Chinese head tax Redressed the Hep C compensation; Reduced the landing fee for new immigrants; Negotiated the softwood lumber treaty with the U.S; Implemented a Taxpayers Bill of Rights and Taxpayers' Ombudsman Provided support for HIV/AIDS vaccine research; Provided a process for prospective Supreme Court appointees; Ended Canadian Wheat Board monopoly following barley referendum; Announced a study of biofuel in North Battlefield, Sask Completed an Indian Residential School Agreement. independent tribunal to settle Indian land claims will be ready by January. Not to mention the legislation they'd like to pass but the opposition and senate won't let them. http://www.am770chqr.com/stati.....?REM=78696
In PMSH’s interview on CHQR he “was amazed at the number of times he has to repeat himself to get the media to acknowledge he said it.” It’s disappointing to find Conservatives can be as dense and guilty of listening to the very Liberal media we often complain about. Not that these are all pure conservative ideas, but repetitive media bias seems to be working:
street racing
democratically extended the Afghanistan mission
income splitting for seniors
legislation that will make it easier for Canadians to vote
Banning corporate and union donations to political parties.
Protecting whistle-blowers
Enhancing the ability for the Auditor General to “follow the money.
Improved marine and border security
Gave tax relief to low income working families,
Provided a working tax benefit,
Allotted funds for more debt reduction,
Added a registered disability saving plan,
Alloted more funds for farmers.
Introduced a workable environment Green Plan
Redressed the Chinese head tax
Redressed the Hep C compensation;
Reduced the landing fee for new immigrants;
Negotiated the softwood lumber treaty with the U.S;
Implemented a Taxpayers Bill of Rights and Taxpayers’ Ombudsman
Provided support for HIV/AIDS vaccine research;
Provided a process for prospective Supreme Court appointees;
Ended Canadian Wheat Board monopoly following barley referendum;
Announced a study of biofuel in North Battlefield, Sask
Completed an Indian Residential School Agreement.
independent tribunal to settle Indian land claims will be ready by January.
Not to mention the legislation they’d like to pass but the opposition and senate won’t let them.

]]> By: The Great Gazoo http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165370 The Great Gazoo Sat, 14 Jul 2007 20:27:10 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165370 It seems to me that the dumb-dumbs at the CPC national office already has more money than they know how to spend effectively. A prime example is the official CPC website http://www.notaleader.ca/index_e.html where Dion's dog Kyoto persistently mocks his own "master". Tax dollars and donations fund that juvenille website. Instead of spending money mocking Dion, why not accentuate the positive about the government’s record and plan? Instead of shifting policies to reflect the polls and the left-wing MSM pressure, why not attempt to educate the public on the merits of conservative policies? Lead the polls rather than follow them. It seems to me that the dumb-dumbs at the CPC national office already has more money than they know how to spend effectively.

A prime example is the official CPC website http://www.notaleader.ca/index_e.html where Dion’s dog Kyoto persistently mocks his own “master”.

Tax dollars and donations fund that juvenille website.

Instead of spending money mocking Dion, why not accentuate the positive about the government’s record and plan?

Instead of shifting policies to reflect the polls and the left-wing MSM pressure, why not attempt to educate the public on the merits of conservative policies?

Lead the polls rather than follow them.

]]> By: Shane http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165369 Shane Sat, 14 Jul 2007 19:15:32 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165369 The lights! I forgot about the light bulbs! It's simple. People want to save energy. You make a better light bulb, that lasts longer and is cheaper, then we'll buy it. Guh. The lights! I forgot about the light bulbs!

It’s simple. People want to save energy. You make a better light bulb, that lasts longer and is cheaper, then we’ll buy it. Guh.

]]> By: apsco17 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165368 apsco17 Sat, 14 Jul 2007 19:12:28 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165368 Nice to see that I'm not the only one feeling this way. I sent them a similar letter in April after the banning incandescent lights fiasco. If I wanted a socialist government, I would have voted for the real thing. Nice to see that I’m not the only one feeling this way.
I sent them a similar letter in April after the banning incandescent lights fiasco. If I wanted a socialist government, I would have voted for the real thing.

]]> By: Spitfire http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165362 Spitfire Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:31:05 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165362 This sums up exactly how I feel as well. We should make your letter a petition or letter writing campaign! Anyone else agree? This sums up exactly how I feel as well. We should make your letter a petition or letter writing campaign! Anyone else agree?

]]> By: wilson61 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165361 wilson61 Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:15:48 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165361 Getting Canadians off the federal tit will take more than 16 months. LibDippers have brainwashed the masses into expecting the government to keep doling it out. It will take a number of years to steer Canadians to taking on personal responsibility. Canadians like a minority government, so PMSH has to work within that limit, it ain't easy, but can be done given time. The 'bumbling Dion' thing is tiresome. But if the CPC allows the Libs to come up for air...well, keeping a foot on their throat is a must. 'i still want smaller gov lower taxes and less gov intrusion in my life' Me too, and that is what I expect to see come Oct 2009, along with a long term vision for Canada. Let the Liberals get all bent out of shape on the little stuff, Conservatives need to look at the big picture. Getting Canadians off the federal tit will take more than 16 months.
LibDippers have brainwashed the masses into expecting the government to keep doling it out.
It will take a number of years to steer Canadians to taking on personal responsibility. Canadians like a minority government, so PMSH has to work within that limit, it ain’t easy, but can be done given time.

The ‘bumbling Dion’ thing is tiresome. But if the CPC allows the Libs to come up for air…well, keeping a foot on their throat is a must.

‘i still want smaller gov lower taxes and less gov intrusion in my life’
Me too, and that is what I expect to see come Oct 2009, along with a long term vision for Canada.

Let the Liberals get all bent out of shape on the little stuff, Conservatives need to look at the big picture.

]]> By: jmorrison http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165359 jmorrison Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:18:21 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165359 wilson61, as a conservative i still want smaller gov lower taxes and less gov intrusion in my life . none of the things you listed accomplish that wilson61, as a conservative i still want smaller gov lower taxes and less gov intrusion in my life . none of the things you listed accomplish that

]]> By: Shane http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165353 Shane Sat, 14 Jul 2007 05:14:52 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165353 Thank you, wilson61 for that summary of what else has been going on. I am earnest in my appreciation of that. Now, what I wish is that this list of yours had fronted the request for my money. Had that been the light their request was in, I might not have written what I did. However, when 90% of the content of that money request was "Stephane Dion is a bumbling buffoon and cannot be allowed to lead the country", well, let's just say I was a little choked. I want to hear about accomplishments, not negative campaigning. I don't hear the accomplishments talked about in the media, I had darned well better hear them loud and clear when the party comes begging for my money. Someone needs to give their head a shake in the fundraising department - how much more would they have raised in the last quarter had they actually solicited based on their own strengths, instead of their opponents' weaknesses? Thank you, wilson61 for that summary of what else has been going on. I am earnest in my appreciation of that. Now, what I wish is that this list of yours had fronted the request for my money. Had that been the light their request was in, I might not have written what I did. However, when 90% of the content of that money request was “Stephane Dion is a bumbling buffoon and cannot be allowed to lead the country”, well, let’s just say I was a little choked. I want to hear about accomplishments, not negative campaigning. I don’t hear the accomplishments talked about in the media, I had darned well better hear them loud and clear when the party comes begging for my money. Someone needs to give their head a shake in the fundraising department - how much more would they have raised in the last quarter had they actually solicited based on their own strengths, instead of their opponents’ weaknesses?

]]> By: wilson61 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165352 wilson61 Sat, 14 Jul 2007 04:11:04 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165352 PMSH is leading CANADA, first, CPC second, as is should be. -Squashed the Bloc with one 'Quebec is a Nation' motion, broke the Lib/Bloc hold on the country -Took our military out of the 'Decade of Darkness' and brought pride back to our military and country -Many bi-lateral trade agreements with other countries, first in a decade -Restored a good working relationship with our largest trading partner, the US -Historic agreement with First Nations on land claims, Native women's rights to own property, be covered by the Charter -In the process of tearing down provincial trade barriers -Taking a stand, internationally, on human rights, no more fence sitting nuanced crap -Fixed election dates, free market barley, court challenge program gone, special interest groups howling...the once natural governing party of Canada polling at historic lows under 30% I am as grassroots as any Conservative. If PMSH does as much for Canada in the next year and a half as he has in the last, he is by far the best PM in my life time. PMSH is leading CANADA, first, CPC second, as is should be.
-Squashed the Bloc with one ‘Quebec is a Nation’ motion, broke the Lib/Bloc hold on the country
-Took our military out of the ‘Decade of Darkness’ and brought pride back to our military and country
-Many bi-lateral trade agreements with other countries, first in a decade
-Restored a good working relationship with our largest trading partner, the US
-Historic agreement with First Nations on land claims, Native women’s rights to own property, be covered by the Charter
-In the process of tearing down provincial trade barriers
-Taking a stand, internationally, on human rights, no more fence sitting nuanced crap
-Fixed election dates, free market barley, court challenge program gone, special interest groups howling…the once natural governing party of Canada polling at historic lows under 30%

I am as grassroots as any Conservative. If PMSH does as much for Canada in the next year and a half as he has in the last, he is by far the best PM in my life time.

]]> By: scott http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165345 scott Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:34:53 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165345 It is time, some started wondering what the hell this government is doing? It is not a Conservative Party and anyone can see the Alliance and Reformers appearing. How do you like the upcoming talks in Mount Campobello in August,where the 3 Countries get together to talk about "The New American Union" if you do not know, please try to find out what it is about..good luck it.... is SECRET It is time, some started wondering what the hell this government is doing? It is not a Conservative Party and anyone can see the Alliance and Reformers appearing.
How do you like the upcoming talks in
Mount Campobello in August,where the 3 Countries get together to talk about
“The New American Union” if you do not know, please try to find out what it is about..good luck it…. is SECRET

]]> By: lemon http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165342 lemon Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:41:57 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165342 Well said Well said

]]> By: JackM http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165341 JackM Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:41:38 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165341 Your email pretty much sums up the way I feel about the current state of the CPC. I don't think running as Liberal-lite is going to win many votes and it's going to alienate the existing base of supporters. Unfortunately, there isn't much to chose from as an alternative. Just might have to sit the next one out..... Your email pretty much sums up the way I feel about the current state of the CPC. I don’t think running as Liberal-lite is going to win many votes and it’s going to alienate the existing base of supporters.
Unfortunately, there isn’t much to chose from as an alternative.
Just might have to sit the next one out…..

]]> By: Stan http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165340 Stan Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:39:33 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165340 Right on. The last time they asked me I made it clear that I would give money to a Conservative government and as soon as they started being one I would start contributing again. They feel they can crap on the base because there is nowhere else for us to go, I made it clear that once they alienated enough of us that a viable Alberta separatist party emerged, I would help fund that. Right on.
The last time they asked me I made it clear that I would give money to a Conservative government and as soon as they started being one I would start contributing again.
They feel they can crap on the base because there is nowhere else for us to go, I made it clear that once they alienated enough of us that a viable Alberta separatist party emerged, I would help fund that.

]]> By: Louise M. from Ottaw http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165338 Louise M. from Ottaw Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:30:13 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165338 Shane, thanks for sharing that email. I am not at all pleased with some of the actions of the Conservative government, which I have been supporting since 2002. I am truly disappointed that the party is beginning to resemble the Liberal party more and more. The Conservatives are fortunate that Stephane Dion is an inept leader. No doubt, the Liberals will soon correct the mistake they made in selecting him. Speaking of leadership, I lay the blame for these un-conservative initiatives and policies squarely at the feet of Stephen Harper. Given his propensity for making it appear he is running a one-man show, he alone must answer for this sorry state of affairs. Should Stephen Harper's leadership be challenged and questioned, not one individual that I know of appears to have the abilities and qualities required to take over. Something has to change. Shane, thanks for sharing that email. I am not at all pleased with some of the actions of the Conservative government, which I have been supporting since 2002. I am truly disappointed that the party is beginning to resemble the Liberal party more and more.

The Conservatives are fortunate that Stephane Dion is an inept leader. No doubt, the Liberals will soon correct the mistake they made in selecting him.

Speaking of leadership, I lay the blame for these un-conservative initiatives and policies squarely at the feet of Stephen Harper. Given his propensity for making it appear he is running a one-man show, he alone must answer for this sorry state of affairs. Should Stephen Harper’s leadership be challenged and questioned, not one individual that I know of appears to have the abilities and qualities required to take over.

Something has to change.

]]> By: R. G. Rennie http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165337 R. G. Rennie Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:21:44 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165337 My sentiments exactly. For me, the turning point was the amount reportedly given to Quebec for their Canada(?)Day celebrations that exceeded the amount given to all of the Rest of Canada for their celebrations.Talk about vote buying.One could be excused for thinking that the Liberals were still in power. My sentiments exactly. For me, the turning point was the amount reportedly given to Quebec for their Canada(?)Day celebrations that exceeded the amount given to all of the Rest of Canada for their celebrations.Talk about vote buying.One could be excused for thinking that the Liberals were still in power.

]]> By: Chris http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165335 Chris Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:07:11 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165335 I could not agree more. They really have to get out of the tit for tat Ottawa mentality and start governing with some confidence. I know the Liberals suck. That is why I voted for the CPC in the first place. Now they have to start showing me they have a plan and some policy beyond the last five election promises. I already have all the reasons I need to NOT vote Liberal. Give some good reasons to make me believe my vote for the CPC is well founded. I could not agree more.

They really have to get out of the tit for tat Ottawa mentality and start governing with some confidence. I know the Liberals suck. That is why I voted for the CPC in the first place. Now they have to start showing me they have a plan and some policy beyond the last five election promises.
I already have all the reasons I need to NOT vote Liberal. Give some good reasons to make me believe my vote for the CPC is well founded.

]]> By: aa http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165334 aa Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:04:36 +0000 http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2007/07/13/a-response-to-the-conservative-partys-request-for-donations/#comment-165334 The money is for Bourque's race car not for election readiness. Why do you hate NASCAR? The money is for Bourque’s race car not for election readiness. Why do you hate NASCAR?

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