That quote above came from this CBC article about today’s Native *Day of Action*. I don’t know about most of you who live out west, but frankly, the fact that the Natives were too lazy to actually do anything in Ontario is quite symbolic. If there was any action today, it came from the OPP and indirectly from our elected officials who tripped over themselves to appease these spoiled brats of Confederation and do a pre-empt shutdown of the 401 and Via Rail. Say what you will about Osama, but at least when he says he’s gonna blow up westerners, he doesn’t call it off in the end to go outside of his cave and have a cigarette!
Anyway, our society today has once again demonstrated that we are all too eager to give the Native bands of this country even more concessions and more privileges just so that they, what? Cry poor again and threaten the harmony of our society again? As the quote above demonstrates, these guys know a good deal when they see it. The real question the rest of us should be asking tonight though is, when are we going to realize that their golden goose is ours cooking in the oven?
Caledonia Wakeup Call wrote:
these blog reviews of June 29th to see what some of you fellow Canadians are thinking. Courtesy of http://www.CaledoniaWakeupCall.com [IMG] Thoughts on Native “Day of Action†[IMG] Everyone is getting tired - The protestors want confrontation [IMG] The Natives: “It certainly was a good test run for us†[IMG] Mr. McGuinty.. Your spine is in the room to the left… [IMG] A Canadian Double Standard
Posted on 30-Nov-99 at 12:00 am | Permalink
ruralrenegade wrote:
Okay, so we give them the land they want. What will it look like five years from then? What does poverty have to do with land claims? Sweet d%^k all?
Posted on 29-Jun-07 at 9:55 pm | Permalink
Scott Tribe wrote:
You guys really are a piece of work over here. All before yesterday all I hear from the right-wingnut side of the blogosphere is about “native terrorists” and sending in the riot police and army to break things up… yet when the day goes by peacefully, you credit it to the First Nations being lazy and then trying to equate them to Bin Laden?
What brilliant analysis. I’d have thought you’d have had a few too many when you posted this, to give you some excuse for the nonsense, but I see this from this site all too often, so I have to put it down to the site being full of Neanderthals.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 8:58 am | Permalink
Progressive wrote:
Oh, wingnuts…you’re so cute and stupid.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 8:58 am | Permalink
john wrote:
Aaaahhh poor SNOT Tribe. We bloggers didn’t act in a manner he approves of. Who cares moron?
I’m getting sick of guys like you. If you’re native let me tell you. **I** don’t *OWE* you sweet F##K all. Those treaties were made by a government that *I* never voted for; that wasn’t even in existance 100 years before I was born. SO SCREW YOU! You want to buy you bis assed trucks? You want to sit on your fat, drunken asses playing bingo? I’ve got a novel idea!! Go out and get a gawwdam job & EARN the money to do it!!
No, I guess it’s easier just to blubber about how hard done by you are. Poor little thing.
When I was in college in the 80’s I worked a job that started at 10 pm and went to 4am. I lived in an under $200 per month sh&thole and ate macaroni 8 - 10 times a week. One day I (and the rest of my class) get ordered by my prof to go and see a native speaker. This snotty bitch is all decked out in the latest designer “INDIAN OUTFIT”. She’s bitching that *proposed* government cutbacks to native education threatened her *”RIGHT”* to a higher education! The cutbacks weren’t even for sure. They were just proposed. And **HER RIGHT**!! Who the F**K says it was her right!!? I busted my ass and lived like a miser to go to college and this professional victim bleats on about her **RIGHT**?
You Indians can all go to hell you whining cocksuckers. Maybe when a few of your big assed, brand new trucks mysteriously catch fire out behind the bingo hall while sitting on your fat ass waiting for O - 57, maybe you’ll change your tune. Probably not though because all you have to do is blubber and the government will buy you a new truck.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 9:17 am | Permalink
Matthew wrote:
Scott, you entirely missed the point. After weeks and months of hearing these Natives threaten to disrupt our society, when the time came they all just sat back and found easy outs around here…once again demonstrating their trademark collective laziness. I suppose that you’re so progressive though that you just progressed right past the argument though and right to the petty name calling that enlightened individuals like yourself frequently indulge in though, eh?
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 9:55 am | Permalink
balbulican wrote:
Matthew, you and Canadian Sentinel provided us with the best laugh of the day. Keep’em coming.
http://www.stageleft.info/2007.....g-i-guess/
Oh, and to your semi-literate fan, John (nice readership you attract, by the way - very sophisticated group) - I know Scott’s last name is “Tribe”, but I don’t think he’s actually an Indian.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 10:02 am | Permalink
Scott Tribe wrote:
No, I’m not.. though I currently live with a 5 min drive of a Native Reservation - I suppose that could count as close enough for these folks however.
Matthew.. real nice stereotyping pal; “trademark laziness”?
I thought Aaron was a piece of work.. but you’ve upped him one better (or 1 worse).
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 10:29 am | Permalink
balbulican wrote:
Interesting times at the Ol’ Politic. Aaron, George and Matthew seemed to have agreed to form an “Axis of Stupid”.
Mr. Cerber, could you perhaps have a word with your dimmer colleagues before this site slides any further into the toilet?
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 10:36 am | Permalink
Pete wrote:
Of course all babulican and Scott Tribe can offer is the usual snotty remarks and name calling — whatever.
Basically candians in general are getting sick of indians whining. And that percentage increases every year. Think about it. Some civil engineer immigrates as a refugee with his family from Somalia and works for 2 years mopping floors while his wife washes dishes in a restraunt. He works at shit jobs for 2 years until his credentials get recognized and even then he has to start at the bottom. All the while he and his family are scrimping and saving like crazy to get a down payment for a house. Mean while he sees indians getting houses bought for them. Getting free money from the government and doing nothing but sitting on their fat drunken asses bitching about how hard they’ve got it.
Then when he and his family finally get their citizenship they are told by left wing fuck-tards like ball-less-can and Snott Tribe that they have to pay some spoiled lazy indians to . . . well, . . . basically to EXIST and NOT work.
I don’t think so.
As far as the threats of vandalism, well it wouldn’t surprise me. And all the snotty remarks and name calling in the world won’t stop that.
Mind you name calling and snotty remarks are all that cowards like ball-less-can have. They’ve GOT nothing else. They really aren’t that important because if you disregard their words then they really haven’t got any other weapons. Right ball-less?
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 10:59 am | Permalink
balbulican wrote:
Actually, on the topic of Land Claims and treaties, and Canada’s failure to live up to them, I’ve got quite a bit “else.”
I don’t raise it here because the discussion of late has sunk to a pretty primitive level - as you’ve so aptly demonstrated. And I’m really not very interested in inviting you to pollute any of the threads where grownups are talking. Sorry.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 11:03 am | Permalink
balbulican wrote:
Actually, Pete/John (same semiliterate racist? hmmm…) is quite right. I didn’t mean to intrude on this pleasant little chorus of ill-informed grumblers. Carry on, and I won’t interrupt you again.
But I do reserve the right to pluck some of your amusing rnats and errors for the amusement of our readers. Surely you wouldn’t deny us that?
Carry on, and know that we’re watching, and grinning.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 11:09 am | Permalink
balbulican wrote:
Sorry, Pete, can’t resist one last comment. If you want to pretend to be two different people, I suggest:
a) Don’t use EXACTLY the same racist phrasing in each note. Try to vary it a little. Instead of saying “fat, drunken asses” repeatedly in both posts, use “big Injun butts”, or something. See what I mean? It’s less obvious.
b) Try to vary the theme a bit. You not only used the same language, but you repeated the same “poor suffering me, goddamn spoiled them” narrative line in both posts. Maybe you should try a few other cliches, like the popular “They all oughta just assimilate anyway” line…that’s always a good one.
Just trying to be helpful here…I don’t think you read very much, so you may not know how hard it is to actually sound like a different person.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 11:16 am | Permalink
Pete wrote:
Like I said. just snotty remarks. That’s all you have.
” I don’t raise it here because the discussion of late has sunk to a pretty primitive level”
Of course, you are far too intellectual and cultured to continue. (eye roll) Or perhaps you are simply and elitist pansy ass who has nothing else.” Buh bye.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 11:18 am | Permalink
Pete wrote:
Actually I simply liked his posting and I know his e-mail.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 11:19 am | Permalink
Matthew wrote:
Well Scott, it seems you and your friend got me! Of course, referring to someone as a “Neanderthal” isn’t stereotyping whatsoever, nor is actually addressing the points of those who disagree with you guys close-minded; I’m sure you’ll just say something along the lines of not having to discuss issues with people so below your social status or something that’ll get you out of actually addressing the issues instead of making character attacks on all of your opponents.
Mind you, I’ve seen the “adult” discussions that occur over in the echo chambers of the “progressive” bloggers’ sites and if that’s what it takes to be an adult to you guys, you guys can keep your sophisticated discourse to yourselves.
I’ll digress though and continue to watch your comments speak for themselves here; don’t want to feed any trolls after all!
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 11:38 am | Permalink
balbulican wrote:
“Actually I simply liked his posting and I know his e-mail.”
Oh, absolutely. Uh huh. Yup. For sure.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 11:45 am | Permalink
balbulican wrote:
Matthew, would you actually like to have a mature, insult-free discussion on the issue of Aboriginal land claims and treaty with someone who knows about? Would you?
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 11:47 am | Permalink
Aaron Unruh wrote:
Balbulican’s post at Stageleft seems to have disappeared. What gives?
Scott Tribe is now writing comments here? Darn. I didn’t know that he was in the business of exporting bad writing.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 12:06 pm | Permalink
balbulican wrote:
Whoops, sorry, my fault. I went in to add an update, and failed to publish. Mea culpa.
The update, if you’re curious, was a quote from Canada’s own poster girl for hatred, Right Girl, who said of the folks she calls “Injuns”:
“It’s their chance to whine and complain that us white guys who pay 45% in income tax to support their smoking, drinking and daughter-fucking are ripping them off…”
Nice. No racist generalizations there.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 12:10 pm | Permalink
Aaron Unruh wrote:
Matthew: After yesterday, I would be less critical of the natives and more critical of the OPP. With a few exceptions, natives conducted themselves peacefully. I don’t think people deserve congratulations for NOT breaking the law. People should stop treating natives like children by bestowing such congratulations. But the realtive peacefulness of the day should be recognized.
That occurred despite the OPP’s best efforts to condone and therefore encourage any law-breaking beforehand. Could Fantino have been any more pathetic? When he said that he was taking Brant “on his word” that he would turn himself in at midnight, all I could see was a cowering, pitiful state.
“You’re under arrest.”
“Yeah, sorry, can’t make it. I’ll try to drop by about midnight.”
“OK, but I trust you when you say that you’ll show up.”
Pathetic. If the police are going to exempt natives from the law prior to any law-breaking, then what should we expect from natives?
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 12:17 pm | Permalink
Aaron Unruh wrote:
“Interesting times at the Ol’ Politic. Aaron, George and Matthew seemed to have agreed to form an “Axis of Stupidâ€.”
Axis of Stupid? That was clever. I’ll bet that ten more seconds of deep reflection would have produced a better adjective.
Meanwhile, Balbulican and Scott Tribe have teamed up. I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m looking forward to the coming insufferable condescension expressed by way of incomprehensible run-on sentences.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 12:44 pm | Permalink
D. McCaffee wrote:
I don’t know anything about scott tribe. I’ve never heard of him before. But babulican is someone I seen a few times. His M.O. is always the same. He pops in with some unpleasant one liners and then when that fails to intimidate everyone he pretends anyone who disagrees with him is inferior and he can’t be bothered to debate such “low brow” knuckle draggers. Conversely if anyone does debate him he invariably descends into name calling. Don’t feed the trolls.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 1:27 pm | Permalink
balbulican wrote:
“I’ll bet that ten more seconds of deep reflection would have produced a better adjective.”
A few alternatives occurred, but “Axis of Stupid” seemed to me to work best. It needed to be two syllables, with the emphasis on the first syllable, to mirror the familiar cadence being parodied - you know, EE-vul - STOOO-pid. Plus the blunt simplicity of it appealed to me. Hmm. Well, I’ll consider other options, if you care to propose any.
“I’m looking forward to the coming insufferable condescension expressed by way of incomprehensible run-on sentences.”
I’ll really try to keep the sentences simple.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 1:51 pm | Permalink
Aaron Unruh wrote:
No no, you missed the point. You need to speak to your partner about writing style.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 1:55 pm | Permalink
balbulican wrote:
Dear D:
Wow. I’m more famous that Scott Tribe…AND I have an M.O.! Cool!
My behavious is pretty much site, and in some cases thread, dependent. When a thread opens up with a mindless cliche like this one did, it’s not going anywhere.
My disappointment with The Politic, of late, is that there HAVE been threads that started with thoughtful posts. I’ve had really interesting discussions here with Greg and Tom, both articulate folks. Aaron just likes to argue (which is fine, but not very interesting), and Shane gets insulting as soon as he runs out of actual argument, which is a bore. I suspect from their discursive style that they’re a bit young, which, fortunately, is a self-curing problem.
As for this current thread, I’ve offered to have a real live grownup discussion with Matthew…no games, no insults, just a debated based on our respective interpretation of Canada/Aboriginal relations, and the history of Claims, Treaty and Self Government. So far, no response, which may mean he’s actually got a life (unlike the rest of us, apparently), or he really isn’t interested in this issue at all. But the offer stands.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 2:10 pm | Permalink
Aaron Unruh wrote:
Tragically, you missed George.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 2:17 pm | Permalink
balbulican wrote:
Naw, I don’t miss him at all. Rempel-lite.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 2:18 pm | Permalink
Bobbyk wrote:
I agree with Matthew, those injuns need to get over the irrevocable destruction of their culture language and history and get over the state sanctioned discrimination that lasted until a generation ago.
Posted on 30-Jun-07 at 5:06 pm | Permalink
stageleft wrote:
Racism like yours is a real treat isn’t it Matthew.
If there is no violence and it’s a peaceful day of protest you can pontificate about how them Injuns is “too lazy” to do anything, and if it had been a blow up day you would be crying long and loud about your need to be protected from these violent law breakers.
But keep writing dude, Canada (and indeed the world) needs to know that people like you still exist - it’s hard to defend against racism if it isn’t exposed to as wide an audience as possible.
Posted on 01-Jul-07 at 11:15 am | Permalink
Matthew wrote:
Say what you guys want about me…
Just remember though:
Stageleft: You’re the first person between the two of us here to use the term “Injuns”, as in, you’re putting words in my mouth. Typical tactic I find from liberals sadly.
All of you: Tell me how decrying both the *threats* made by Natives and also their *actions* of collective laziness on the day of is so wrong. If anything, it’s the reservists who are being hypocritical. It’s also not racist since these actions (or lack thereof) have nothing to do with a race, but rather a political group which likes to be referred to as such every time it is expedient for them; I could also comment on how unions are tyrannical bullies these days, but would that be racist?
balbulican: Thanks for the offer but frankly all the above observations have made me a little reluctant to get into a debate with you. After all, you just referred to me as 1/3rd of the “Axis of Stupid” (and yes, it makes you look stupid if no one gets your joke), and I’m still waiting for an apology that one would expect from a gentleman opponent. In summary, you guys on the left only play by the rules as long as they fancy you. Good day sir.
Posted on 01-Jul-07 at 12:34 pm | Permalink
Aaron Unruh wrote:
Don’t bother with Stageleft. He’s between highs and is feeling a little aggressive.
Posted on 01-Jul-07 at 1:05 pm | Permalink
balbulican wrote:
So Matthew isn’t interested in an insult free discussion on Land Claims and Treaty. Gosh. Imagine my surprise.
And you’d like an apology…for what, exactly? I’ll give you a tip instead. If you don’t want to be called stupid…don’t write stupid stuff.
Posted on 01-Jul-07 at 9:38 pm | Permalink
Matthew wrote:
Oh, I get it - first I have to beg you to pay me common courtesy before you stop your name calling. And you wonder why I refuse to debate with you; tell me, how do you spell hypocrite, Mr. Open-Minded?
Posted on 01-Jul-07 at 9:42 pm | Permalink
balbulican wrote:
Matthew, let me explain.
This discussion began with a post from you mocking and insulting my wife, her family, and a number of my friends. They are Ontario “natives”. They’re not “lazy”. They’re not “spoiled brats of Confederation”. When you choose to begin a discussion with a stupid insult, I’m afraid you forfeit the right to politeness.
Furthermore, your post and subsequent commentary suggested that you know nothing about the actual nature of Aboriginal title, Land Claims or Treaties. Now, that’s okay: most Canadians don’t. But most Canadians don’t choose to brandish their ignorance for the applause of their equally ill-informed peers by publishing their stupidity online.
And no, I don’t wonder why you refuse to debate with me at all. You don’t actually have anything to say on Aboriginal issues beyond the surly, resentful cliches you share with so many of your equally ignorant confreres. It’s been an interesting week on the right side of the blogosphere, between Right Girl and Katie Shaidle’s open, explicit espousal of racist hatred. You’re not that bad, and the offer stands.
Tell you what. You apologize to my wife, her family, and the Aboriginal people in Ontario, and I’ll consider apologizing to you.
Posted on 02-Jul-07 at 5:40 am | Permalink
Dr.Dawg wrote:
I love self-destructing remarks like this one:
“Mind you name calling and snotty remarks are all that cowards like ball-less-can have.”
And this whine was sort of a classic, no?
“When I was in college in the 80’s I worked a job that started at 10 pm and went to 4am. I lived in an under $200 per month sh&thole and ate macaroni 8 - 10 times a week.”
You lucky, privileged bastard! When I was in college, classes were in a hole in the ground that I had to dig myself, and I did all the teaching too. You had a paying job? I would have killed for a paying job! I had to carry rocks all night just for the right to sleep in a puddle, and when it didn’t rain I went thirsty. You had macaroni? You whinging little momma’s boy! I would have bitten my own head off for just a taste of macaroni! When I was your age I lived on gravel. Yes, gravel! You kids these days get everything handed to you….
Etc.
Posted on 02-Jul-07 at 7:23 am | Permalink
balbulican wrote:
YOU had GRAVEL?
Bloody luxury. Now of course, in MY day, we had it hard.
Posted on 02-Jul-07 at 7:40 am | Permalink
stageleft wrote:
Oh I don’t think I was putting words in your mouth at all Matthew, the intent of your post, and your attitude, are both very, very, clear…. and I was mocking you for both.
Aaron: as articulate and thoughtful as ever I see.
Posted on 02-Jul-07 at 8:02 am | Permalink
Matthew wrote:
Consider this then balbulican: Yes I referred to the Natives as lazy. Did I say *all* Natives? How do you know that I wasn’t referring to specific Natives before you went off the rails, or (again) that “the Natives” I refer to aren’t the political forces trying to leech off the rest of Canada by breaking more and more laws as time passes by. Plus, it is one thing to refer to a group as lazy, be they political, racial, institutional; it is another to just come out and say a group is stupid. Let me give you an example of the former that you might appreciate: “The Americans are too lazy to understand what they’re doing to the rest of the world.” See? Do I mean *all* Americans? Their government? Only Americans with guns? Again, you wonder why I won’t have a debate with you under the pretenses of it being civilized, and then you go ahead and once again demonstrate the twisting my words and jumping to conclusions that I want to avoid in the first place.
While we’re on my post though: note that I also attack the OPP and the provincial AND the federal governments for this mess. Where are you to defend those guys, or is it okay to attack them because their organizations because they don’t also qualify as a race?
Finally, I don’t know what you want me to call it, but when a group gets exclusive tax breaks, leniency when they break the law, special treatment at all public universities and gobs of cash flowing to them (as a whole), AND after all that they complain about their poor treatment, lack of resources and opportunities and everything else under the sun, “spoiled brats of Confederation” sounds pretty accurate.
Posted on 02-Jul-07 at 9:26 am | Permalink
balbulican wrote:
Matthew:
“How do you know that I wasn’t referring to specific Natives before you went off the rails, or (again) that “the Natives†I refer to aren’t the political forces trying to leech off the rest of Canada by breaking more and more laws as time passes by.”
Umm…because that’s not what you said. You said “natives”. Not “some natives”.
If I say “White people are racist”, that’s a comment on white people as a group. That’s how English works. If you did a bad job expressing your thought, then by all means retract and rephrase your statement. An apology to the folks you maligned would be nice too.
“…then you go ahead and once again demonstrate the twisting my words and jumping to conclusions that I want to avoid in the first place.”
“Twisting” your words? Nope. Quoting your words. If you were TRYING to say “Lazy Indians are Lazy”, you didn’t do a very good job.
“Where are you to defend those guys, or is it okay to attack them because their organizations because they don’t also qualify as a race?”
Umm…you really need to calm down before you post. This sentence makes no sense.
And then you launch into another ignorant rant that confirms your utter lack of understanding about the nature of treaties, claims, and the relationship between First Nations and Canada. Let me know when you’d like to learn something, and we can have a pleasant little chat.
(By ignorant, by the way, I mean in the literal sense - you are simply uninformed. Which, as I said, is okay - most Canadians are - but you shouldn’t bitch so publicly about things you don’t understand. It really does make you look stupid.)
Posted on 02-Jul-07 at 12:07 pm | Permalink
Aaron Unruh wrote:
“And then you launch into another ignorant rant that confirms your utter lack of understanding about the nature of treaties, claims, and the relationship between First Nations and Canada.”
Nah, it’s not that hard. Once we strip away all the feel-good language, you want more financial concessions from the state. Just like welfare recipients and everyone else. No biggie.
People like you are so smart that you still cling to an agreement negotiated by Paul Martin. In the lead-up to an election campaign(!).
Posted on 02-Jul-07 at 12:46 pm | Permalink
stageleft wrote:
Actually it was an agreement arrived at by the Aboriginal leadership, the provincial Premiers, and the government of Canada, after a lot of really hard work — but don’t let anything like the truth get in the way of your delusions Aaron, that sort of thing might impact on your content.
Posted on 02-Jul-07 at 12:54 pm | Permalink
Aaron Unruh wrote:
Oh geez, you’re hilarious. If people negotiate hard enough and stay up late enough working on a federal cost-sharing agreement, natives’ problems will magically disappear.
The problem, of course, is simple. The “leadership” of native “nations” in Canada face numerous problems in their “sovereign” territory. Basic things like, I don’t know, clean drinking water. But instead of hiring engineers and contractors to fix the problem, native “leadership” groups hire lawyers and media consultants. Luckily, stupid people like you are around to breathlessly justify stupid strategies like this.
Posted on 02-Jul-07 at 1:09 pm | Permalink
balbulican wrote:
“Once we strip away all the feel-good language, you want more financial concessions from the state. Just like welfare recipients and everyone else. No biggie.”
Part of Matthew’s education, Aaron, would have been a summary of findings over the last five years of a number of reports that say, as clearly as possible, that First Nations aren’t asking for “more”. They’re asking that the claims and treaties be implemented.
If you’re curious, the key documents are:
- an assessment of implementation of Native Claims by Sheila Fraser, Auditor General, in which she rips INAC to shreds for their failure to honour the letter, spirit OR intent of claims and treaties:
- an independent evaluation of the Implementation of the Nunavut Claim, by Justice Thomas Berger, which concludes the same, even more bluntly, and outlines the strategies whereby the Federal Government simply ignores the finding of any regulatory, arbitration or adjudication process;
- an independent evaluation by Pricewaterhouse Coopers, which echoes these findings.
I’m doing you the courtesy of assuming that is a topic you are actually prepared to talk about. Are you ? Or are you just playing?
Posted on 02-Jul-07 at 1:36 pm | Permalink
stageleft wrote:
Magically disappear? My goodness Aaron, you really are wonderfully ignorant of the situation aren’t you? Kelowna was the beginning of addressing a long list of long outstanding issues created by willful federal delinquency, and not any sort of magic bullet. You really should read up on these things before you pontificate overly much, people might start to think that you don’t know what you’re talking about and consider you foolish, bigoted, or both.
And you are right, the Aboriginal people of Canada face many issues, a great many of them created, in whole or in part, by the federal government - now we have to address those issues.
I like your example of clean drinking water, why don’t we take Kashechewan as an example of that, everybody knows about Kashechewan. How do you suppose a financially poor reserve will accomplish your suggestion all on its’ own when small municipalities depend on provincial infrastructure money for exactly that sort of thing - except that the province won’t do it, because it’s a federal responsibility, and they haven’t done squat in years, even though they had known there was an issue as early as 2001.
Even now the 2001 Ontario Clean Water Agency report sits on a shelf somewhere, the majority of its’ recommendations un-addressed.
Please Aaron, educate yourself will you?
- and do see if you can tone down the number of insults in your rhetoric. That’s generally what dogmatic people who are starting to get a bit uncomfortable about their knowledge of the topic material at hand resort to, and it’s usually considered boorish.
Posted on 02-Jul-07 at 2:27 pm | Permalink
smarter than balbie wrote:
Whoooeee! good ol’boys from Stagleft are this “conservatives hating the natives” thingy like stink on a monkey’s ass, making hay when the sun shines, eh fellers?
Posted on 02-Jul-07 at 4:38 pm | Permalink
balbulican wrote:
Long silence. So…just playing?
Posted on 02-Jul-07 at 9:08 pm | Permalink
balbulican wrote:
“People like you are so smart that you still cling to an agreement negotiated by Paul Martin. In the lead-up to an election campaign(!).”
Sorry, I missed this.
Good illustration of the way that ideologues care less about facts than about a perception…factual or not…that will support their position.
The Kelowna Accord was the culmination of an eighteen month formal planning and consultation process. It was unique in quite a few ways, but its most important facet was this. It’s almost impossible to get First Nations, Inuit, Métis, Federal, Provincial and Territorial governance bodies to sit down in the same room, let alone to work on a long term, comprehensive policy and program initiative. (If you can think of another example, I’d be glad to hear it.) The KA represented a consensus of a kind that had never been seen before (including the buy-in of provinces and territories of very different political stripes.)
Whether the Liberals would actually have implemented it remains, to me, a huge question. But the Accord itself was a painfully won and very solid piece of work.
Posted on 03-Jul-07 at 4:42 am | Permalink
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Posted on 05-Jul-07 at 3:44 am | Permalink
Jim Zedar wrote:
I think that the American public should know about all of this going on in our country and see who all will support us. riot police just need something to do. Cananda is just like Denver every year. They do not understand and never will. So we all have to fight to make it right. the Four Directions only mix here and white people got lost somewhere along the way. this is our home. they cannot make it theirs. it goes with the land you originally occupy as a real nation. maybe they should go back to being monkeys like they say they come from? they are making our home uninhabitable. they should go home before they kill my grandmother earth! i love her and i fight for her. i pray for her. what do they do! blame it on Christ and God!
Posted on 28-May-08 at 6:25 pm | Permalink