Unbelievably, societies oftentimes ban public nudity for reasons other than Jason’s disgust.

My question is whether my disgust at their lack of garb gives society a right to stop them from doing it.

–name removed– is really quite eloquent compared to this nut.

Come on, George. You’re not speaking this bimbo’s language. Try “HA HA HA hee hee we’re WINNING you suck SUCKA LOL yay we’re winning! and you still suck! lol yay!!”

It’s pretty sad when I find myself yearning for the subtle writing of –name removed–.

I’m not wishing hardship on anyone. But those who consider themselves in a perpetual state of struggle and hardship, by which they mean total hedonism, dressing in drag or dancing in their skivies—or nothing at all—against the ravages of rampant heterosexism, should be careful what they wish for in life. As some new age hippie might say, it’s not good to have all that negative energy! Think positive, happy thoughts!

Since what goes around, comes around, they might actually find themselves facing real struggle and real hardship with no relation whatsoever to their sexuality; just plain old disease, economic scarcity and mortality. Tis’ life.

And lets face it, the pathologically dispossessed GLBT groupies, as a religious order, don’t exactly have any transcendental imperative, nor the philosophical staying power, to weather such times.

Their gospel has no hope! Their story of life’s ultimate meaning and purpose doesn’t have a good ending. It’s just straight up hedonism whilst you still breath and have a few bucks; yes, and can blame everyone else for your problems while dancing your heart out on parade float.

“….Unfortunately, in a secular society that no longer exercises moral outrage or even mocking comedy toward naked creepy gay men in public, the most workable antidote to the indecencies of gay pride remains with the harsher realities: the casualties and scares of a major health epidemic, a major economic depression, or some other widespread national struggle where civility either gets back to the basics or falls apart entirely”

Hmmm…if I didn’t know that you rubes were just misguided fanatics rather than real terrorists…I’d think Apocalypto there is wishing for a series of disasters to return us to more savage times…where mobs could tear gays apart or lynch them…if we didn’t kill them first.
But what I want to know is who is he claiming to speak for….the Army of God or the Alberta Militia?
And does CSIS know?
I mean that’s really whacko stuff…I’m sure even you agree Aaaron.
But I suppose I can afford to be generous with him as well. Damn.
Look at it from my point of view. We just finished the BIGGEST, safest, and most inclusive and fun parade in Canada. Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of gays AND straights came out to celebrate OUR struggle. We just keep getting bigger and stronger every year…while the church gets weaker and weaker.Nobody really believes in that ju ju monkey stuff anymore. Gay marriage is in the can, climate change deniers are falling out of the sky like flies, Harper and his Alberta Cons aren’t going anywhere. And the BEST news of all…more than seventy percent of younger Canadians are behind us all the way. Which means that within a few years most of our opponents will be DEAD. Isn’t THAT wonderful!!!!!!!!
Oh yeah…Apocalypto may love the smell of napalm in the air…but to me it smells like VICTORY!!!!!! Muahahahahaha!!!!

You make a fair point about economic depression and carnival, and you may very well be right. It depends how much of a loyal following gay pride has, how stable of an economic base it constitutes; how much “saving for the future and hard times” means to that demographic.

As for carnival having culture, Gay Pride is no Mardi Gras.

Btw, I don’t buy the economic depression argument. Parades and celebrations of all kinds happen irrespective of labour market cycles. People will always make economic trade-offs based on their priorities, and for some people, gay pride celebrations are worth the economic resources required to participate. In fact, one might argue that when times are tough, people party harder, because they need to pick up from the less than great every day. Furthermore, the business community has realized a LONG time ago, now, that two gay men have way more disposible income than straight couples, irrespective on economic and labour market cycles, and market their products accordingly. If anything, in an attempt to increase revenues, business will throw more money into pride celebrations in order to encourage their clients to continue to spend their money like they did in better economic times.

Last, I am not sure which carnival you have ever been to, but from what I see on the internet, you don’t need to be gay to participate in that sort of debauchery. Maybe a fact finding mission road trip is in order to feed the wheels of the right wing media.

And carnival has a long history in civilization as a time to let loose and express rebellion to the ordering structure of reality. Where gay pride fails as good carnival is that it’s more perverse—aesthetically just gross, as in yucky—rather than cultured, demonstrated by the earnestly creepy naked old dudes.

Follow this train of thought a little more, George, since I am not sure where you are trying to go with this. Are you saying that a depression is the only thing that will scare Canadians back into being moral?

Realistically, I don’t see how the police can do much to enforce public nudity laws in the absence of major public outcry. When most just shrug their shoulders, say yuk and walk away, police action would likely turn gay pride into one big nude fest for creepy weirdos; meaning we would just have to endure even more creepy naked weirdos standing against oppression by the authoritarian state that is Canada: “People, we need solidarity! Remember Stonewall!”

Unfortunately, in a secular society that no longer exercises moral outrage or even mocking comedy toward naked creepy gay men in public, the most workable antidote to the indecencies of gay pride remains with the harsher realities: the casualties and scares of a major health epidemic, a major economic depression, or some other widespread national struggle where civility either gets back to the basics or falls apart entirely.

*rolls his eyes and braces himself for another rant from George*

Unfortunately, in Canada, what you say is a very realistic possibility.