We’ve had this conversation before. I’ve said it repeatedly - you argue this purely from a position of your personal morality and project that upon others, rejecting anything that challenges your assumptions.

You can argue that the world is flat all you like, George. That doesn’t make it so.

Grog: The fact that you cannot refute my assertions because they are simple statements of obvious knowing is what makes them true. Obviously the physiological fact of sex impacts conventional gender roles because it means something different to be a man than to be a woman. Obviously, human beings desire all sorts of things, and some people are able to justify acting on their desires without giving lame nature-makes-me-do-it excuses. Obviously.

You keep making these assertions - that you keep repeating them does not make them true.

That’s a shame.

I’m thinking two dudes who think they can actually marry each other is more ridiculous. And on par, thinking one’s sex should have little input on their gender, or thinking we are all born with a sexual orientation.

Sigh … how ridiculous.

Awesome. Then your ideas will take longer to spread.

But there’s nothing that deep about it; nothing that broad and vast about saying human beings are moral, and are what they choose to become—what I always argue.

Where people get “deep” is when they start explaining human behaviour away with concepts like “sexual orientation;” not fully appreciating the contingent contexts for applying such concepts.

I’m not interested in unwashed masses. Individuals are more interesting.

“Hi, my name is George, and every topic I stumble over makes me mad that Canada has same sex marriage.” [insert feet stomping here] “In fact, I will show you this article I found on the internet and then tell you the same thing that I have been trying to tell you all for so long - that same sex marriage is the result of a dogma I am trying to prove exists.” [insert link and quotation here] “But you are all too stupid to understand me because I am SOOOO deep. You can’t read, you can’t understand, I am super smart and hate what same sex marriage has done to my broad and vast word view.”

Give me a break George… It isn’t that hard.

If you maybe picked another topic, it would allow others to demonstrate their ability to converse with you on your highly elevated and multi-faceted level of understanding. However, the way you argue this point doesn’t do your intellect justice.

Enlighten the unwashed masses, George.

PLEASE, we need you.

Oh shit, I went and made it personal again. Bad, bad Ezra.

Yes, the author herself did not come to the final conclusion I offer, how astute of you. But then I believe I wrote, “As an aside …”

Learn to read buddy.