Three Cheers for Racial Apartheid in Canada
April 3, 2007 · By Aaron Unruh
Be an indian, get a free pass to run someone down and drag him on the pavement under your car until he’s dead:
The B.C. Court of Appeal ruled the judge at Darnell Pratt’s trial didn’t properly take into account his young age and his aboriginal background.
Update: Just so that everyone is clear on what it is we’re dealing with here:
De Patie’s body, naked except for tattered clothes around his ankles, was found 7.5 kilometres from the Esso at the end of a trail of blood. His flesh had been ground away to the bone on his face, ribs, right leg and chest, his liver was torn, and his pelvis broken.
“Mr. De Patie did not die from being struck by a car, but rather from injuries he sustained while being dragged alive under the vehicle,†Bernard said, drawing sobs from De Patie’s mom.
After hitting De Patie and driving around Maple Ridge, Pratt went to a friend’s and told people he’d killed someone. Then he and others drove in a stolen truck to Hope and back.â€
So let’s amend the original post to: Be an indian, get a free pass to torture someone to death. Quite the cause that the proponents of racial apartheid in Canada have chosen to fight for.
Oh, they always take the fact that the offender is an indian. Just look at the types of sentencing handed out in Manitoba for car-jackers.
Being an indian gives you the right to be out at night destroying other’s property with zero accountabilty attached to these actions.
At what point do those who are affected by these assholes begin taking action to provide that accountabilty?
I am really sick of this “political correctness”. It should not matter what race, ethnicity, religious beliefs, ect, a person has. If one is willing to do the crime, he or she should be prepared to do the time.
It’s absurd that these Liberals preach equality but then judge people differently based on their gender or race. Talk about more Liberal hypocrisy.
Congratulations dude, you get the prize for the most bigoted, racist, misleading, asinine, post of the day.
Where is the “free pass”?
If you had 1/2 an ounce of common sense you could use any search engine available today to find any number of news articles about any number of reduced sentencing for any number of factors - that sort of thing probably wouldn’t fit into your personal agenda though would it?
Three cheers for racism at ThePolitic
[...] As I’ve said before, the more authoritarian your politics the greater the likelyhood that your a bigot. [...]
They should send them back to India
not to mention, what does the title refer to? Do you feel oppressed (I’m assuming you’re a priveleged white person - correct me if I’m wrong)? Are you the victim of racial apartheid because an aboriginal canadian got a lighter sentence? Or are you saying you approve of the racial apartheid experienced by many aboriginal communities in this country, subjecting them to drastically poorer living conditions than other parts of the nation, and through government inaction (on the part of all stripes), producing conditions that might encourage them to turn to commit acts of violence?
Don’t get me wrong, what the kid did was wrong, and that a man died as a result is horrific, but the world is not as black and white (or red and white) as you are painting it.
“The BC Court of Appeal reduced the sentence from 9 years to 7,”
The horror, the horror…7 years in jail is such a “free pass”. How will the justice system survive?
I thought maybe Aaron was having a bad day when he accused Michelle Oliel of being anti-semitic and asked her if he campaigned against Bob Rae’s wife Arlene.. Of course, Michelle is Jewish herself and also was one of Mr. Rae’s key organizers. So he looked utterly foolish then, and even more-so when he then tried to claim at my site he was being “ironic”, and already. knew all that. Right.
This post just shows I was wrong. Aaron apparently has bad days EVERY DAY.
Or the time that Scott claimed that Harper’s ad campaign in NFLD would drain the CPC’s coffers. Except that the ad campaign came from government funds. Oopsies. If you would check your facts, Scott, maybe you could avoid your idiotic mistake days.
“If you had 1/2 an ounce of common sense you could use any search engine available today to find any number of news articles about any number of reduced sentencing for any number of factors…”
None of which should be race.
Or are you now a proponent of judicial apartheid? Who’s the racist here?
Stageleft, the proponent of racial apartheid.
Oh come one now Aaron, fess up, don’t be the type of bigot that tries to pretend he’s not a bigot, they’re the worst kind of bigot that there is.
If ya got a beef with sentencing considerations then say so. Everybody has an opinion on them, the considerations that take into account situations like single mothers, upstanding members of the community, sole family earners, etc, etc, etc…. it’s a long friggen list.
Then of course ya got the more posh-upper-class crap like either having enough money to buy your way out of criminal activity, or at the very least having a daddy that does.
What would you call that?
You stated that if a person is an “indian” they get a “free pass to run someone down and drag him on the pavement under your car until he’s dead.” - is that what happened?
I suppose that you could try and redefine “free pass”, but that’s a petty, transparent, and weak ploy isn’t it?
– yer better to just man up, arrange yer balls, and admit to your bigotry.
You could always try attacking the person or people who called you on your bigotry, oh wait, you already tried that, it was a petty, transparent, and weak ploy.
There is always the option of deleting the post and hoping it goes away (or claiming it was all just some sort of horrible misunderstanding) - that’s also a petty, weak, and transparent ploy though isn’t it? Not to mention that it depends so very heavily on Google cache not having it and nobody having taken a screen shot of the page.
– dang dude, there’s only one thing to do I guess…. yer better to just man up, arrange yer balls, and admit to your bigotry.
“If ya got a beef with sentencing considerations then say so.”
So should you. Should race be a mitigating factor in sentencing? Apparently you think so. Thus, you’re a proponent of racial apartheid.
By the way, saying “bigot” as often as you do was intimidating back in the 60s when you were in your sexual prime. Not anymore. So grow up.
This criminals actions are sickening. Only an idiotic liberal would find a way to defend this kind of thing. Any intelligent aboriginal would detest this kind of sentence for being patronizing to their race and would deplore such a light sentence. Interesting how some posters attack those who defend the victim in this case: typical liberal response.
The post is about a judge giving Pratt a lighter sentence because of his “youth” and “aboriginal background”. I don’t understand how not commenting on a rich kid, single mothers, single income earners and upstanding members are germane to this post and labelling someone a bigot. No sireee, I don’t get it all. Does that make me a bigot?
I see you went for option [w], attack the person calling you a bigot instead of addressing the point.
Quite frankly I expected that.
And you didn’t answer the question. I expected that. Should race be a mitigating factor in sentencing? If so, how are you not a proponent of racial apartheid?
[By the way, seems your post linking to us isn't getting quite the reaction you expected, eh?]
There are many things that are considered as mitigating factors in sentencing Aaron, it has been that way for a very long time.
But since you ask, I will tell you that yes, sometimes race is one of those factors, just like age is sometimes a factor, just like sex is sometimes a factor, just position within the community is sometimes a factor, and just like many other things are sometimes factors.
None of that has anything to do with your original bigoted statement that Indians can kill people and get a “free ride” because they are Indians, nor does it have anything to do with your further bigoted statement that Indians can torture someone to death and get a “free ride”.
There was no free ride.
A bit of advice dude, quit digging, it’s doing you no justice.
PS: The only thing I am looking for in linking your article is greater exposure to bigoted attitudes. It’s important that as many people as possible know that people like you exist.
[...] under your car until he’s dead” fade into obscurity ThePolitic.com author Aaron Unruh digs his hole deeper, and changes his statement to So let’s amend the original post to: Be an indian, get a free pass [...]
Deliberatly killing/torturing someone (and then bragging about it) and only getting seven years is about as close to getting a “free pass” as you’re going to get.
Saying his race had anything to do with his crime is pathetic - about as pathetic as Stageleft’s defence of “mitigating factors.”
Also,
I hate to break it to you stageleft, but I’m willing to wager the majority of Canadians who agree with Aaron.
“But since you ask, I will tell you that yes, sometimes race is one of those factors, just like age is sometimes a factor, just like sex is sometimes a factor, just position within the community is sometimes a factor, and just like many other things are sometimes factors.”
But what do YOU think? Should someone get a reduced sentence because he or she is an aboriginal? Stop being a coward and address the question.
I will add my vote as one of those Canadians who categorically disagrees with almost everything Aaron says. I think he is an idiological psychopath who would rather let some dead white man tell him what to think rather than sit and think about it himself. He is lazy and not worth our time.
Your turn Aaron. Tell everyone who stupid I am. It will make you feel ok about being such a pathetic ideologue.
Actually, I have a great idea. Why don’t we just stop reading thepolitic.com until Aaron stops writing here. Then Greg won’t get advertising revenue from the site since traffic will decrease.
I don’t think anyone has to tell you “Smarter than Ezra” how stupid you are, your comment sez it all. By the way, the post is about a judge reducing the sentence of a killer because he’s young and aboriginal, how this has morphed into Aaron U. is a bigot, ideological psychopath, lazy, racist and a pathetic ideologue escapes me. This has to be the “option w” thingy, attacking the person instead of addressing the post.
None of that has anything to do with your original bigoted statement that Indians can kill people and get a “free ride†because they are Indians, nor does it have anything to do with your further bigoted statement that Indians can torture someone to death and get a “free rideâ€.
I disagree. The statement “Be an indian, get a free pass to run someone down…” is not a criticism of Indians (other than the one individual who actually committed the crime), it’s a criticism of the justice system. Saying that Mr. Unruh’s statement is bigoted against Indians is like saying that anyone who criticized the verdict of the Rodney King beating trial is bigoted against white people and/or the police. Both are attacks on the system itself, not the people groups who “benefit” from the system.
(I put the word “benefit” in quotes, since I suspect that coddling a group like this is ultimately very harmful to that group in the long run.)
As for the sentence, while seven years in prison (minus parole) technically doesn’t qualify as a “free pass”, it’s a hell of a lot less that what the person actually deserves.
“Your turn Aaron. Tell everyone who stupid I am.”
Sigh, alright. You’re stupid.
Once again, you front an evasive question in answer to a simple question, questions don’t answer questions Aaron.
Bluster and bluff fall into the same category as attack the individual who calls you on your bigotry Aaron. The question is simple, I’ve asked it a couple of times, and I’ll even try once again - did this guy get a “free ride”? Is it true that an Indian can kill a man, or torture a man, and suffer no penalty or punishment?
“let some dead white man tell him what to think”? Ezra just exposed his total ignorance on this topic. If police found your brother dead, naked and battered after being dragged under a thiefs car for miles would you refer to him that way?
For all your babbling Aaron, you still seem to think 7 years in a federal penitentiary is a “free pass”. You seem to think that a reduction of 2 years - form 9 years to 7 years - is letting this guy “get away with it”. I’m pretty sure the majority of Canadians wouldn’t consider 7 years in Milhaven or Kingston Pen a “free pass” to anything.
As a former corrections worker I can pretty much assure you that you wouldn’t last 7 days in that situation, let alone 7 years. Yeah, its such a “free pass” - that has got to be one of the stupidest things I have ever heard anyone declare.
Only shows what a fool you are, not to mention an ignorant bigot.
And yet none of the giants of intellect arriving here to call me names have yet to tell us why someone should be given a reduced sentence for a heinous crime because of the colour of his skin. So who’s the racist here?
Blah, Blah, you got a point to make?
Seriously, you’ve wasted enough of everyone time with your pathetic insults.
Don’t you need the hits Greg? Seriously, that is all Aaron is good for.
What are you talking about?
Mike, take a hike - your comments will be deleted from this point forward.
Although you know it quite well already Aaron, the problem with your post is not discussing the reduced sentence, it is the bigoted misrepresentation you attached to it.
Whether you intended to show it or not (and I’m inclined to believe that you really are a bigot but didn’t necessarily intend on coming out at this time and in this way) the choice you made in how to discuss the issue tells us a lot.
You thump your chest in self righteous indignation about how people have reacted to your post, you have tried to muddy the waters, and you have tried so very [very] hard to deflect any questions about your bigoted lie about the event and turn questions back on those calling you on your bigotry - all without answering the very simple question I asked in my initial comment.
“Where is the free pass?”
Where is the evidence that an Indian can kill a person and suffer no cost or penalty?
Where is the evidence that an Indian can torture someone to death and get a “free pass”?
As I said earlier, the worst kind of racist is the racist who tries to hide their racism - take my suggest, man up, adjust your package, and be done with it.
To repeat what I said above, saying that Indians get a “free pass” for committing crimes is a criticism of the justice system, not of Indians.
“And yet none of the giants of intellect arriving here to call me names have yet to tell us why someone should be given a reduced sentence for a heinous crime because of the colour of his skin.”
Hmm. Well, I’ll try, although frankly your goal seems more to pick a talk-radio style fight than to actually have a discussion.
The entire point of the sentencing procedure is to apply human insight and wisdom to the circumstances of each specific case after a finding of “guiltyâ€, and determine from a wide range of possible sentences which one best serves an equally wide range of needs - protection of society, the potential for rehabilitation, punishment, and many others.
An individual’s culture impacts on every single one of those things, and is therefore an appropriate consideration in sentencing. I haven’t read the testimony in this case, and I suspect you haven’t either, so I can’t comment on its application in this instance.
“An individual’s culture impacts on every single one of those things, and is therefore an appropriate consideration in sentencing.”
At least someone is trying.
How does it protect society for an aboriginal to get a reduced sentence? How does it enhance the punishment? Are aboriginals more likely to be rehabilitated in a shorter period of time than others?
Your defense of race-based sentencing is lacking. I get the impression that you and SL reacted to the story emotively and are now trying to piece together an ad-hoc defense of what you said previously (well, at least you are, SL is still bleating “bigot” or whatever).
I notice that you’ve substituted “race” for “culture.” But that’s not really what this is about, is it?
That’s because you are a bigot Aaron. A genuine, dyed in the wool, 100%, put him on the stage and charge admission to see him, tell your kids you’ll punish them severely if they act like that, and then hang your head in shame if they do, racist.
Have you given any thought at all to either
[a] answering that question I asked you a few days ago, or
[b] taking my suggestion about simply manning, adjusting your package, and admitting to being a bigot
You’re boring. Until you actually want to defend your cherished race-based sentencing instead of just slinging insults, bye bye.
[...] wonder if the reduced sentences have anything to do with the fact that the accused are natives? As we know, British Columbia courts are currently all about counting race as a mitigating factor in [...]
And you are a bigot, a bigot who dodges simple questions, and a bigot who has lowered the respectability of blog he writes for considerable - that’s too bad for the blog as a whole, but there ya go, we all make our own decisions and choices as to what we are willing to promote don’t we?
Until you actually want to defend your cherished race-based sentencing instead of just slinging insults, bye bye.
SL must have been stoned for that decade where words like “bigot” lost their ability to intimidate.
Man, Aaron…you’re a total douche-nozzle.
Politic, you need to expel StageLeft and Balbulican.
They will not ever accept reason, logic, nor fact. They’re here to argue and spread their dogmatic ideology.
They’re overzealous, closed-minded, dogmatic, arrogant propagandists/useful idiots.
And Balbulican’s incompetent when it comes to covering up his true identity. But that isn’t a surprise, as he’s a leftist, after all.
In the meantime, I suggest that Balbulican and Stageleft stop going around calling people racists and bigots just for saying something the international socialists won’t tolerate.
I’m not sure why you would waste time with the trolls. Just let them rant and they will crawl back into the septic tank they emerged from. The smell will linger a bit, but it goes away after a while if you ignore them.
Interesting.
The leftwing propagandists who believe in using race and similar criteria as a basis for treating people differently under and before the law are calling someone a “bigot” for pointing out that this is actually happening and saying it’s wrong?!
Wow! Holy sh*t!
The stupidity and insanity of the left!
So what if the words “free pass” were used?
So what? So what? So what?
That doesn’t make anyone a “bigot”.
The “free pass” is relative, not absolute (a nuance that escapes the zealot leftists herein), and amounts to two years’ reduction of sentence for such an heinous atrocity… because the killer happens to be an “Aboriginal”.
Criticizing this fact doesn’t make one a “bigot” (it wasn’t explained how, it was just asserted by the leftist propagandists). Nor does calling the reduction of the sentence a “free pass” amount to bigotry.
In fact, reducing a sentence simply because one is Aboriginal is bigotry. Because if the next case involved a non-Aboriginal dragging someone to their death in the same manner, the non-Aboriginal wouldn’t get a two-year discount for the murder.
StageLeft and Balbulican are the racists/bigots here.
They go all over the place calling anyone who challenges their racist ideology “racist” and “bigot”.
Only useful idiots will accept their argument. I don’t know why they do this, except that they seem to have a sinister agenda. And they might be under the influence of something far bigger than they.
Only in the disordered matter within the crania of leftwing useful idiots can exposing and criticizing actual, real-life bigotry make one a bigot oneself. If it could, then what of the leftists screaming “bigot” herein? Are they not, therefore, bigots, according to the bizarre illogic they spew?
Oh, hi, Canadian Sentinel. Still gutless, witless, paranoid, incoherent, and off the meds, I see?
Excuse me, Aaron. Just had to say hi to an old friend who bans the people he’s too stupid to debate. Please forgive his interruption. Now to return to our discussion.
“How does it protect society for an aboriginal to get a reduced sentence? How does it enhance the punishment? Are aboriginals more likely to be rehabilitated in a shorter period of time than others?”
That’s not quite the ways it works. I didn’t make my original point clear: bear with me while I try again.
The verdict in a criminal trial is (in theory) almost mechanical. It’s the answer to the question: does the evidence support a specific charge to a specific legal standard?
But sentencing is supposed to accomplish a complex series of social goals, and an individual’s background DOES enter into it.
As I said, I am really limited in my ability to comment meaningfully on this specific case. I don’t know the background of the perp, and I don’t know what evidence and arguments were considered by the appeals court judge.
Homicide. A fifty five year old white middle class stockbroker who kills the man who seduced his wife may be a shit - but he will probably not reoffend. A fifty five year old urban Aboriginal alcoholic which a long list of assault charges and two prior homicide charges probably will. The difference will be reflected in their sentence: the Aboriginal guy is more dangerous, and he will be spending a much longer time in a much toughter joint.
In some cases the fact that one is functioning in an environment with significantly different values and expectations than the one environment one was raised in is judged relevant in sentencing. Sometimes it’s not. Again, I have no idea of the particulars in this case, and why the perp’s Aboriginal ancestry was judged relevant. It isn’t always.
But to return to your specific questions:
“How does it protect society for an aboriginal to get a reduced sentence?”
Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn’t. I’ve seen many cases where a judge (in Nunavut) decided that sending a young Inuit offender out of the territory for incarceration would increase the likelihood of recidivism, and developed a sentence that combined restitution, community service, and local incarceration. Conversely, I have seen cases where the sentence (by southern standards) was unusually harsh, because the judge decided that a community needed to be protected against a specific abhorrent behaviour. In both instances, judges use their own intelligence and sense of judgement to address all those considerations I talked about earlier.
“How does it enhance the punishment?”
Punishment needs to fit the crime, but also the perpetrator. Some Aboriginal communities now banish sexual offenders, a sentence that wouldn’t mean all that much to your average joe, but one which carries quite a horrific stigma in some cultures.
“Are aboriginals more likely to be rehabilitated in a shorter period of time than others?”
No blanket answer to that questions: but please think about it (without the bloggy argument filter on). Rehabilitation means changing an individual’s attitudes and behaviours. The way in which that happens is very dependent on culture and background (as well as on each individual): culture affects not just WHAT you learn, but HOW you learn.
“Your defense of race-based sentencing is lacking.”
I hope this fills in some of the blanks.
“I get the impression that you and SL reacted to the story emotively and are now trying to piece together an ad-hoc defense of what you said previously (well, at least you are, SL is still bleating “bigot†or whatever).”
You’re mistaken. You’re getting a point of view that’s based on a long career working between and within cultures. Dismiss it if you want, but there’s nothing ad-hoc about it.
“I notice that you’ve substituted “race†for “culture.†But that’s not really what this is about, is it?”
I know what you’re saying, but I personally think that it IS, in fact, more about culture than race.
An Aboriginal person raised in a city (fostered, for instance) without significant links to his/her culture and no residential school experience, is a very different kind of person than someone raised on reserve, or an Inuk just arrived in Montreal from Povungnituk.
Shall we try to keep the civility thing going?
“Canadian Sentinel”? Never heard of that. What’s that, a magazine? Something you just made up on the fly, a smoke-and-mirrors tactic to cause a confused pause in your opponent?
“Balbulican”, someone knows who you are, what you look like, what you do. Oh, yes.
You hide your gross incorrectness behind your excellent, professional-grade writing skill, but we see through you.
You are an ideological extremist, nothing more.
Someone disagrees with you, or you disagree with then… therefore they’re a “racist” or “bigot”. Of course. That’s an automatic leftwing response. Shows your stupidity. Great writing skills are just that and cannot necessarily indicate one’s overall intelligence, morality nor ethics.
I know your kind extremely well. Two-faced and ruthless. If you don’t get one’s agreement, you proceed to assassinate their character. That’s your type. That’s the greedy, unethical, immoral, evil left.
Useful idiot, you are, DB.
Word to the wise: cease and desist your propaganda. Your ideology will fail.
The grownups are talking now, Scenty. Run along home.
So what’s the poop with this balbulican character? enquiring minds want to know. is he a commie in drag? a loudmouth snivel servant? a hatemonger? or just a plain’ol useless troll? or who knows what…? my money is on useless troll.
Aaron, I’ll let Sentinel and his soul-mates chat among themselves. I’ll be waiting for your response if you want to discuss this further. Thanks.
One wonders whether “Balbulican” actually has a job. He’s all over the internet spewing his masterful propaganda and defamation (supposedly he’s a professional writer, which helps one with the smoke and mirrors) so much so frequently one must wonder if he actually does much of anything at all to make an honest living for fair, not exorbitant, private-sector compensation, or if perhaps his livelihood comes from some sinister, foreign source who pays him to propagate this astonishingly nonsensical, harmful drivel wherever he can find anyone who dares to differ from his prescribed-to-be-spread propaganda. Perhaps his “day job” is fake, a cover, a front…
I’d also add that “Balbulican” is deeply immersed within “Aboriginal” issues, so I’m afraid his judgement and thinking are potentially clouded. No wonder he’s totally onside with whatever matters favor Aboriginals whilst discriminating against non-Aboriginals. He’s clearly an Aboriginal supremacism propagandist. This makes him an Aboriginal supremacist, a bigot and racist. As far as he’s concerned, Aboriginals are more deserving of all that’s good than are non-Aboriginals. And I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that he may claim Aboriginal heritage himself.
And he’ll probably, illogically, call me what he called you, Aaron, after what I just wrote.
That will demonstrate that he has a mental disorder in which illogic becomes “truth” which must be spread.
Or that he’s a professional propagandist.
Take your pick. This guy just ain’t for real!
is balbulican related to Ward Churchill?
Aaron - knock knock…any comments on the points raised in #49?
- knock knock
- who’s there?
- balbulican
- balbulican who?
- balbulican’t play with aaron
You guys are acting like a bunch of little catty teen-aged gay boys.
Aaron - knock knock…any comments on the points raised in #49? -Balbulican
Im afraid not, for you raised no worthwhile points, Balbulican. You’re just doing your usual thing, and we know what it is. That’s why we’ve chosen to dismiss you as a simple nutcase with very impressive writing skills.
You’d have made a great Nazi propaganda writer!
Or a great propagandist for Al Qaeda!
The left will be eating out of your hand, for sure!
That’s Balbulican, the great Big-Lie propagandist!
At least he’s better than Scott Reid. Maybe Stephanie Dee should hire this guy to spew malicious lies about the Conservatives? That’s how it works!
“That’s why we’ve chosen to dismiss you as a simple nutcase…”
“We”?
Heh. So to paranoia, schizophrenia, and delusions of grandeur, Scenty, I can add Multiple Personality Disorder to the list of your symptoms?
We? Oh, stop your denial. You know full well what folks say about you, DB. Lots of folks, that’s “We”. Look at the commentary above. You’ve been dismissed as some crazy old fart. Can’t you see that?
I’m just trying to help you, you poor, blabbery old fart. Poor old D.B.
Be advised, everytime I’m told of you going onto peoples’ blogs and calling them, without justification that’d stand up in a court of civil law, “racist”, “bigot” or other stupid, hurtful words, I’ll track you down and explain how they aren’t what you call them and how you are what you project onto others.
Think you understand psychology, DB? That stupid study you did at McGill about the three most common things teens will do upon becoming teens? Laughable! Who’d you interview, a few moonbats and report the predictable findings based on that small, discrete, homogeneous grouping? I hope they didn’t give you a degree for nonsense like that, but then again, universities today teach folks to be moonbats… and here you are being one! Poor old dude… I assume you have a piece of paper that says you basically understand psychology. So, if you do, then you urgently need to get to work on yourself! Yes. Look into the mirror and ask: what the bloody hell’s the matter with you?
“”Be advised, everytime I’m told of you going onto peoples’ blogs and calling them, without justification that’d stand up in a court of civil law, “racistâ€, “bigot†or other stupid, hurtful words, I’ll track you down and explain how they aren’t what you call them and how you are what you project onto others.”
Poor, dumb Sentinel.
Scenty? Listen closely. Read my posts above carefully. Okay? Actually read them. I realize there are some big words, but you can skip them.
Now if you actually read what I said, Scenty, you will notice that at no point do I call Aaron “racist”. Or “bigot”. Nor, in fact, do I use any “stupid, hurtful words” in my discussion with him. In fact, because Aaron has been civil to me, I am civil to him.
You see, Scenty, grownups are capable of talking to each other without calling each other “Stupid idiot moonbat poopheads”. That’s what Aaron and I are doing.
Now, you have a different style, and that’s fine. But Aaron and I are trying to have a talk here.
On your site, when someone disagrees with you too articulately, or presents too much embarassing information, you ban them (as you urged Aaron to do to me, above). No problem, that’s your site. To me, that’s the height of intellectual cowardice (especially when you continue to mock them after banning them…kinda like a little Pomeranian yapping at bigger dogs from behind a locked gate): but that’s your right.
But to come to someone else’s site and derail a discussion with the same kind of schizophrenic tirade you practice on your own site is just plain rude. So I gently suggest you stop embarassing yourself and let the grownups talk.
Just my opinion.
OH, I did indeed read your nonsense above. Perhaps I should’ve been more specific than saying you actually called Aaron a “racist” and “bigot”. Let me explain, so put away that joint for the moment, ok?
DB, You and StageLeft were playing “good cop, bad cop”. You don’t criticize StageLeft’s slurs, therefore you agree with him by default. In fact, I believe you may even be the same person, despite your photographs being wholly different. If that’s the case, then who’s schizophrenic here? I never pretended to be anyone other than myself. Never. I know I’m the same person at all times. You? Who knows?
You may wish to condemn SL’s defamatory statements, though that’d be shocking to witness.
You’re actually, above, de-facto, going out of your way to back up StageLeft’s labelling of Aaron. You know you are. You’re on his side and never distance yourself from his slurs.
Your tactic is a recognizable one, the two of you. Therefore, as you’re effectively a tag team of sorts, you also agree with SL’s false characterization of Aaron.
Clever, but transparent. Not fooling anyone.
You’re right- the stuff you say is just your opinion. And it’s bullshit. But that’s just my opinion. Heh.
FYI, I am an adult. You’re just an elderly teenager with excellent writing skills who likes to delude himself into believing he’s having “adult” “conversations”. Truth is that you’re infantile in your impressive illogic. You also expect everyone to agree with your “points”, as you believe you’re right because anything leftist is always right.
Now you may go back to your Aboriginal supremacism propaganda. Yes, that’s what it is, and this is coming from an adult who’s trying to make you see reality. But I realize it’s futile and am astonished at myself for bothering with you still. A self-discipline issue for me to deal with, is all.
Your own delusions of grandeur (”I am right; you are wrong… just ’cause!”) are glaringly obvious. And only you and Don so far have projected yours onto me.
Ta-ta, D.B. I’m off this thread and won’t be back, so you got the last word. Ain’t that grand, ya virtual precocious little boy with a grey mustache?
As incapable of rational argument here as at home, I see. I must say watching you humiliate yourself (apparently without even realizing you’re doing it) on a serious site, with adults watching, is even funnier than reading your ever-enjoyable hermetically sealed rubber room.
Sorry about the interpolations from my delusional buddy, Aaron. He has some serious problems, as you will have noted from the above.
I am quite interested in the issue you’ve raised, and look forward to your response.
Well since the prison system is already 70 percent Native people, and Canada is stealing there rights and land. Im not surprised at these types of rulings.