Even the Hillbillies hate us
July 28, 2005 · By Peter Rempel
You know that relations between east and West are getting strained when even the Ontario hillbillies are denying Albertans’ right to chart our own future:
If you Alien Alberts wanna quit Canadee, get busy buildin’ up yer stoopid-ass Alberta Separatist Party an’ try holdin’ a dumbass referendum an’ see how far you get. Not far, I betcha.
Whooee! Where in the hell do you get the idee I’m “denyin’” anything. Din’t I say fer you t’ go ahead an’ get busy buildin’ yer Alien Albert party? That ain’t denyin’. Din’t I say t’ hold a referendum? How’s that denyin’?
Jest ’cause I reckon yer fightin’ a dumbass losin’ battle don’t mean I’m denyin’ nuthin’. Alien Alberts is out on the fringes o’ polyticks. This ain’t east against west. It’s federalist against separatist. I know lotsa good western folks in Alberty an’ BC an’ I even know a couple in Sasky. None of ‘em is agitating fer quittin’ our great home an’ native land. They’re patriotic good Canajuns who love their homeland.
I figger there’s always a few grumblers an’ malcontents, no matter where you go. When yer livin’ in the best dang country in the world, there ain’t so much excuse fer bitchin’, though. Go spend some time in Bosnia or Afghanistan or Zim-bob-way or China or Mexico or Burma or Baghdad an’ then tell me how bad Canadee is.
Yores trooly,
JimBobby
What benefit does Alberta derive from remaining in Canada? A simple question.
Whooee! Well, PeteFeller, you asked that selfsame question over on my own boog an’ I give an answer over there. I’ll answer here, too.
I reckon jest bein’ able t’ say yer livin’ in the best dang country in the whole dang world oughta be benefit enuff. Bein’ able t’ say yer part of a big an’ beautiful home an’ native land oughta be benefit enuff. Bein’ free t’ live an’ work anywheres from St. John’s t’ Victoria oughta be benefit enuff.
Bein’ free t’ agitate fer Alien Albert separatism makes Canajuns a heap better off than most o’ the sorry-ass world.
If yer only lookin’ fer the kind o’ benefits that come by cheque in the mail, who knows? Mebbe King Ralph can pay you more money t’ love Alberty than the feds can pay you t’ love Canadee. 50 years from now, when the oil’s all gone, the Alien Alberts’ grandchildren’ll be thankful they got Canadee’s shoulder t’ lean on.
As far as I’m concerned, the fair weather friends who wanna t’ get paid fer lovin’ is nuthin’ but prostitutes. I don’t care ’bout them sorta benefits. Freedom, equality an’ democracy are the benefits I want an’ Canadee’s deliverin’ in spades.
Where in the hell do you get the idee I’m “denyin’â€? anything? That’s a simple question, too. When you sed I’m denyin’ yer rights, you accused me o’ doin’ you a wrong. You gonna take it back or not?
“I reckon jest bein’ able t’ say yer livin’ in the best dang country in the whole dang world oughta be benefit enuff. Bein’ able t’ say yer part of a big an’ beautiful home an’ native land oughta be benefit enuff. Bein’ free t’ live an’ work anywheres from St. John’s t’ Victoria oughta be benefit enuff.”
Thanks, but I don’t go for the sentimental horseshit.
“As far as I’m concerned, the fair weather friends who wanna t’ get paid fer lovin’ is nuthin’ but prostitutes. I don’t care ’bout them sorta benefits. Freedom, equality an’ democracy are the benefits I want an’ Canadee’s deliverin’ in spades.”
How convienent, you being an Ontarian and all.
Dang! I be happy nay-ow Mastuh JimBobby. Yup, yup, sho be fine lettin us Albert folk suv yo fine self!
Jus need a liddle bit O’ Doh-nayshuns above $3000/riding durin a EEE-lecshun fo dat freedom, an a Triple EEE senate fo da EEE-quality gig tho. Jus bitween us spades.
“Bein’ able t’ say yer part of a big an’ beautiful home an’ native land oughta be benefit enuff. Bein’ free t’ live an’ work anywheres from St. John’s t’ Victoria oughta be benefit enuff.â€?
So a sovereign Alberta would not be able to say their country was big and beautiful? Since both size and beauty are subjective, that is logically impossible. Are you also saying that Alberta would place restrictions on the freedom to be employed where you want? Given the current trends in attitude of each province I find it very hard to believe that Albertans would be more inclined to social engineering than Ontarians.
“Freedom, equality an’ democracy are the benefits I want”
A pity you don’t have any of them. Freedom? You are denied the freedom to do what you want with your own money, property and body. Equality? Paul Martin can take your money at will. Can you take his? Democracy? Were you watching the same Parliament as the rest of us?
JB’s original point is correct in that the post here inaccurately states his view as denying Albertans’ right to pursue independence. His view is that such pursuit would be foolish.
A referendum, in Alberta, on independence before we developed the pre-indepedence provincial structure Quebec has, would be foolish.
First we need to turf the PCs.
Second, we need to start by implementing that firewall.
WHy is Jimbobby not able to post here anymore?
http://jimbobbysez.blogspot.co.....tutes.html
Guess he was right about you separatist cowards…
Peter, I don’t understand why people like you post on the enemy’s blogs. I only post on blogs I think conservative/libertarian Albertans will read.
It isn’t fear. Cast not your pearls before swine.
Do you think they care for any explanations?
Never justify yourself or your heartfelt convictions to an enemy. He’ll get your point soon enough when he sees you act.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time an annoys the pig.(entertains him at your expense too)
“Peter, I don’t understand why people like you post on the enemy’s blogs. I only post on blogs I think conservative/libertarian Albertans will read.”
Just a guess here, but I’m speculating that perhaps Peter still recognizes the value of discussion. But thanks for the fascinating insight you’ve provided into the mind of an intellectually curious conservative. I guess that’s where the “conserve” part comes in. By all means, do protect those marvellous ideas of yours against challenge, criticism or questioning. What an excellent in mature approach to political thought.
So you banned Jim Bob? What kind of independent nazi republic of Alberta are we promoting at this site?
Listen folks, Jim Bobby is free to post here; he wasn’t banned. The reason some of his comments were not visible in this thread is because he does seem to be able to write proper English (or any language for that matter) and his posts are often riddled with foul language. These two factors lead to our spam comment filter to filter his nearly unreadable comments out.
And R.D cut the Nazi accusations out – that’s just ignorant.
Greg
Admin
Whooee! Well friends, there’s a bigass dustup goin’ on in the Canajun boogeysphere concernin’ site hackin’, comment filterin’ an’ lyin’ boogers who won’t come clean. Ol’ JayFeller CurryPowder’s a conservative feller who’s havin’ hisself a boog fight with Brent ColdBert who’s also a conservative. BrentFeller’s takin’ it on the chin from anuther conservative feller, Ian Scott. Both JayFeller an’ IanFeller got purty good evidence that ColdBert is jivin’ ‘em with weasel lies.
I’ve had my own troublems with lyin’ boogers who won’t come clean so I know what JayFeller an’ Ian is goin’ through. Over t’ that boog, the AdminFeller sed –
“Listen folks, Jim Bobby is free to post here; he wasn’t banned. The reason some of his comments were not visible in this thread is because he does seem to be able to write proper English (or any language for that matter) and his posts are often riddled with foul language. These two factors lead to our spam comment filter to filter his nearly unreadable comments out.”
Well, that can’t possibly be true, sez I.
If my comments is gettin’ filtered out automatically, how is it that commenters who copy an’ paste bigass direct quotes from my comments still get publicated? If that spam filter’s kickin’ my comments out, how come it ain’t kickin’ comments that quote the full text o’ my comments? The lyin’ snakes’ll come up with anuther lie t’ explain their bias an’ dishonesty but nobuddy’ll buy that any more than they’re buyin’ the horsepuckey bein’ spewed by ColdBert.
Ol’ TedwardT’s got hisself a good boog post up ’bout this ColdBert thingy. Karaoke Night In Blogland: Brent Colbert Does The Beatles. It’s a laff, no two ways.
JameseyBoy Bow’s boogin’ on this here dustup, too. Right Down the Memory Hole.
Yores trooly,
JimBobby
Let’s try that again….
If my comments is gettin’ filtered out automatically, how is it that commenters who copy an’ paste bigass direct quotes from my comments still get publicated? If that spam filter’s kickin’ my comments out, how come it ain’t kickin’ comments that quote the full text o’ my comments?
I feel like I’m watching a car crash when I read through some of these comments.
No, Tom – you’re watching a bunch of drunks pile out of the car, after its crashed.
Someone said something somewhere about link slutting. I suspect that’s what they’re up to.
#12 balbulican, I hope you went over to JimBobby’s site and read the feeding frenzy. If you did, maybe you can point out where it fits the definition of discussion, and explain the value of it to real political discourse.
I’m not interested in discussing anything with communists. The point of discussion is to arrive at agreement and that will never happen. If an agreement was reached, no Liberal could be expected to keep their side of the bargain.
Politics isn’t a game and my aim is to help Albertans to see the enemy’s determination to continue to enslave them to Ontario’s tax regime.
My approach to the current state of Canadian politics as they exist at this juncture is, indeed, mature.
Speller, I did read (and participate in) some of the discussion at JimBobs. It breaks down into a couple of categories:
a) some good, substantive and respectful discussion between JB and an Alberta separatist on a number of practical issues related to separatism;
b) some infantile banter about which neither end of the political spectrum should be boasting.
As for not liking to discuss things with communists…wow. Did you spot a real, live communist? A rare breed, ideed.
Marx, the father of communism, used the terms communism and socialism interchangably in his Communist Manifesto. Any distinction between the two is irrelevent hairsplitting on the part of simpathetic academic apologists to make the implementation of ‘communism by inches’ more palatable.
We will soon enough have an overt communist regime in this country, if we don’t have sharia first, when the social anarchy the ’socialists’ have unleashed through legislation and judicial activism picks up momentum.
Then, with the invocation of the War Measures Act which the government provoked social unrest will bring, the communist revolution will have it’s violent aspect. No communists aren’t rare. Disingenuos liars, yes, rare no.
Excellent. I can see the newly emerging Sovereign Nation of Alberta is in for some pretty sophisticated political analysis. Lucky province.
Excellent. I can see the newly emerging Sovereign Nation of Alberta is in for some pretty sophisticated political analysis. Lucky province.
Out of curiosity, Speller: this thread began with the suggestion that Albertans should be allowed to “chart their own future”.
If the First Nations currently located within the province decide, upon the event of separation, that they prefer to remain part of Canada, will you advocate respect for their right to do so?
balbulican sez: “If the First Nations currently located within the province decide, upon the event of separation, that they prefer to remain part of Canada, will you advocate respect for their right to do so?”
Absolutley not. The land is Alberta’s. The treaties which were signed extinguish the aboriginal right to the land. The treaties contain rights to hunting and fishing.
The Indians don’t even have self government or their own economic base.
balbulican sez: “Excellent. I can see the newly emerging Sovereign Nation of Alberta is in for some pretty SOPHISTICATED political analysis.”
Sophistry is what the commiesymp professors were peddling when they gulled balbulican into thinking there was a difference between socialism and communism.
Where, balbulican, did you get the idea that the indians of treaties 7 and 8 had any ‘right’ to the land they signed away? These treaties actually contain the word extinguished when refering to land claims.
The Treaties of Canada with the Indians, Alexander Morris, Prospero Books.
That whole Jimbobby… Jimbooby… whatever, was great!!! Jimbobby can I get the number for your dealer… I need some of that.
The treaties did deal with land rights, which is why land claims in Alberta are rare as a rule. Typically, a land claim is launched in relation to something they didn’t think to cover in the land usage components of the treaty.
A good example of this is the First Nations band north of Lake Erie. They did not write in waterways, rivers, creeks and the lake itself in the treaty, and the Indians are making a land claim based on historical use (aka title to) the lake and its feeders.
In Aberta the First Nations don’t scream about the land, they scream about what’s under it, and that isn’t written into the treaties in Alberta.
It’s a fair question too… should Alberta be negotiating a final settlement with all bands. I’m not in Oil, but I’m fairly certain that is already happening.
Thank god too, otherwise we’d be like BC, where the landclaims represent 113% of the total land surface of the province.
Lucky for Alberta, the Indians here hate Ottawa damn near as much as they hate “White guys” living in Alberta.
Nope, I’d worry more about Federal Control another way. You see folks… our wonderful governments respectively are learning all about technology and how it can allow a government to focus tax’s on individuals, without stirring up a hornets nest in the corporate world.
You got it baby, tax’s on demand.
So if I was a Paul Martin, getting bugged for money by a Charest, or having to listen to the whining of a MCguinty… I might think to myself that placing a “wealth” surtax on “individuals” living in Alberta, might be a way to appease the two main reasons I keep getting elected.
Now I don’t want to light the fuse of a seperation bomb in Alberta, so I won’t tax those living there now. Nope, I’ll tax the buggers that want in.
You can move to Alberta and bask in its glory, but your going to pay extra for the pleasure.
Alberta is going to need 10’s of thousands of workers in the next decade, and the population is going to grow by at least another million to meet demand. So by placing a surtax on businness’ and individuals who want to move to Alberta, I get a alway’s growing extra income, and achieve the following:
1) The province won’t really bitch because they can create tax breaks for the business’ they really care about.
2) The province can also create some sort of “have a baby and we’ll pay you” program.
thereby getting out of any true political fallout.
3) People who already live here won’t care because they are already here and exempt.
4) Albertans will most likely treat it like a status symbol, which means they will actually think of the PM as a good guy.
Yep… that’s my bet. Its a win,win senario for the PMO.
In Alberta, where Indian bands actually have oil, they have ‘Indian Royalties’ paid to them. This does not mean a claim to the land, but falls under the Aboriginal rights which cover hunting and fishing the land.
Obviously, not every band has this resource.
conservatives are fugly.