Comments on: Canada’s time running out

By: mel wilde

mel wilde — Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:50:42 +0000

I read so many pro-liberal slogans lately I have decided that people of my age are not welcome in Canada, Our home for all of our lives. We believe in a lot of stuff that is no longer acceptable. We believe our ancestors should be honoured for the effort they made in building this nation.
That being a christian and going to church is o.k. That raising children and looking after grandparents is our job and not the governments. that Governors General should be Canadian and respected by all. That crooks should go to jail and not have tv’s and pc’s. I could go on and on, but that will not change the fact that in Liberal Canada seniors are no longer welcome

By: The Jurist

The Jurist — Wed, 27 Jul 2005 01:46:51 +0000

As the “some ND” referenced above, here’s my take on why this is good for the NDP.

The effect of polls like this is both to call into doubt the effectiveness of the Cons as an opposition party, and move toward an aura of inevitability to a Liberal victory (which then takes away from Martin’s strategic voting arguments come election time).

I agree with Peter that one party can’t stay in power indefinitely. Hence the uppermost realistic goal for the NDP as things stand now: to be the strongest opposition voice (and thus the natural anti-Liberal protest vote) after the 2006 election. The question then becomes, can the NDP push the Cons aside as the primary alternative to the Liberals?

The answer is based equally on both Con support and NDP support. While it’s not the best-case scenario for Con support to bleed over to the Libs rather than the NDP, it still makes for one step toward the ultimate goal. Perfect news, no; good news, yes.

By: Speller

Speller — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:47:12 +0000

I can barely wait for the next federal election. As an Albertan I see it as win-win.

Either the Libs win, in which case Alberta gets out quick after realizing that Ontarians are corrupt rather than simply stupid, or the CCP gets a peek at everything thats been concealed by the FOIP Act all these years.

By: Peter Rempel

Peter Rempel — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:12:08 +0000

“Sureâ€¦ blame the voters for the Conservatives inability to come up with a coherent set of policies that would attract voters to them as an alternative.”

I’m not blaming anyone for anything. I’m celebratory. Bring on more such polling numbers. If you Liberals think that this Ontario one-party state is sustainable, you’re dead wrong.

By: anonymous

anonymous — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:26:58 +0000

Yes, to moderate. That’s code for Liberalise. Otherwise, the message is: cheat and steal as much as you can, as long as you become furry and part of the Liberal Party. Then, Ontarians will vote for you. Why bother having another party?! Oh, yes, and self-loathing. If only we all had our consciousness raised to the proper liberal level. We should all be more patriotic like Gagliano, right.

Perpetual opposition? Err… Not for Albertans, it won’t be. It will be more like life-imprisonment under the CCC. We’ll be out soon enough.

Peter: Argentines will object to the comparison. They’ve reformed and they are now throwing crooks out of office, even in between elections.

By: Ian Scott

Ian Scott — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:18:03 +0000

On the “About” page of thepolitic.com, it says this, “Our intention is to provide an intellectually honest viewpoint on the topics of which we write,”

Peter, from an intellectually honest position, would you care to point to reality at your statement that Canada is being transformed into “Argentina, Northern Branch.”

And what exactly does that mean?

Please be intellectually honest, Peter.

By: Scott Tribe

Scott Tribe — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:30:37 +0000

Apologies for the double posting

By: Scott Tribe

Scott Tribe — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:29:47 +0000

Sure… blame the voters for the Conservatives inability to come up with a coherent set of policies that would attract voters to them as an alternative. Crying “All Liberals Are Corrupt” such as you and other Tories do isnt resonating with Canadians in general, not just Ontarions. A recent SES poll say a majority of Canadians believe that only a few bad apples in the Quebec wing of the Liberal Party may be corrupt, but not the entire Liberal Party.

Also calling Canada a “fourth-rate” country reinforces the notion that Conservatives are nothing more then self-loathing Canadians who have nothing positive to say about a country that most Canadians can perceive as doing pretty good economically (I believe we are one of the few G-8 countries, if not the only one - who doesnt have a deficit to worry about in their annual spending)

Albertans also dont have much business crying about other provinces only voting for the Liberals when they themselves have regularly voted for only 1 party in their provincial politics for 30-40 year stretches - first the Social Credit, and then the Conservatives.

Moderate the party by bringing back more Red Tories, dampen the Social COnservative influence, try being positive about Canada a few times instead of always constantly putting it down.. and you’ll get a chance to lead.. Otherwise, be doomed to perpetual opposition.

By: Scott Tribe

Scott Tribe — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:28:15 +0000

Albertans also dont have much business crying about other provinces only voting for the Liberals when they themselves have regularly voted for only 1 party for 30-40 year stretches - first the Social Credit, and then the Conservatives.