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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Nightmares&#8221;:  Final Installment</title>
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		<title>By: mark peters: April 2005</title>
		<link>http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2005/04/26/nightmares-final-installment/comment-page-1/#comment-171326</link>
		<dc:creator>mark peters: April 2005</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at ThePolitic has posted the final installment of his review of the CBC&#039;s Passionate Eye &quot;Nightmares&quot; series. We are indebted to him for his [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Cerber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Cerber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2005 16:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John:  Sorry, uh, to disappoint you.  

I think where we&#039;d disagree is over Curtis&#039;s allegation of a neoconservative plot and the degree to which people who consider themselves neocons wield as much power as he seems to claim.  I&#039;m also unsure whether he gives us a clear picture of what a neocon is, except someone on the right who wants to &quot;export&quot; democracy.  Well, there are people on the left who want to &quot;export&quot; democracy (since Woodrow Wilson) as well, and they&#039;ve been put in an awkward position of having to agree with their ideological rivals on the Right (e.g., Michael Ignatieff) or they&#039;ve simply decided that only Democrats can export democracy, which isn&#039;t much of a position.

I&#039;ve already said my peace on the documentary&#039;s treatment of Strauss.

I also suspect you&#039;re right about Muslims&#039; viewers&#039; responses about Qutb.  That&#039;s not to say that Muslims necessarily agree with Qutb.  Rather, he might perform the role of being a useful pitbull who gets the attention of the West, providing a cover for other sorts of activists, either benign or malign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:  Sorry, uh, to disappoint you.  </p>
<p>I think where we&#8217;d disagree is over Curtis&#8217;s allegation of a neoconservative plot and the degree to which people who consider themselves neocons wield as much power as he seems to claim.  I&#8217;m also unsure whether he gives us a clear picture of what a neocon is, except someone on the right who wants to &#8220;export&#8221; democracy.  Well, there are people on the left who want to &#8220;export&#8221; democracy (since Woodrow Wilson) as well, and they&#8217;ve been put in an awkward position of having to agree with their ideological rivals on the Right (e.g., Michael Ignatieff) or they&#8217;ve simply decided that only Democrats can export democracy, which isn&#8217;t much of a position.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve already said my peace on the documentary&#8217;s treatment of Strauss.</p>
<p>I also suspect you&#8217;re right about Muslims&#8217; viewers&#8217; responses about Qutb.  That&#8217;s not to say that Muslims necessarily agree with Qutb.  Rather, he might perform the role of being a useful pitbull who gets the attention of the West, providing a cover for other sorts of activists, either benign or malign.</p>
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		<title>By: John Brissenden</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Brissenden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2005 15:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, I&#039;m disappointed.  You promised me this post would be &#039;gloriously snobbish&#039;; instead I find that it is one of the more measured and thoughtful critiques of the series, and one that at least engages with the series in detail.  I&#039;m not sure that you, Adam Curtis and I actually have too much to disagree about, since I didn&#039;t interpret the series&#039; message as being that the al-Qaeda threat is non-existent, and your point about people without memory being easily manipulated is one that most would endorse, including Curtis.

By contrast, other critical bloggery on the series has been ill-informed, prejudiced, inaccurate bile from people who have not even seen it.  One of your other commenters cited Samizdata - this is one of the worst offenders.

What would now be really interesting, and is so far conspicuous by its absence, is a response from Muslim readers on the series&#039; treatment of Sayyid Qutb.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, I&#8217;m disappointed.  You promised me this post would be &#8216;gloriously snobbish&#8217;; instead I find that it is one of the more measured and thoughtful critiques of the series, and one that at least engages with the series in detail.  I&#8217;m not sure that you, Adam Curtis and I actually have too much to disagree about, since I didn&#8217;t interpret the series&#8217; message as being that the al-Qaeda threat is non-existent, and your point about people without memory being easily manipulated is one that most would endorse, including Curtis.</p>
<p>By contrast, other critical bloggery on the series has been ill-informed, prejudiced, inaccurate bile from people who have not even seen it.  One of your other commenters cited Samizdata &#8211; this is one of the worst offenders.</p>
<p>What would now be really interesting, and is so far conspicuous by its absence, is a response from Muslim readers on the series&#8217; treatment of Sayyid Qutb.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2005/04/26/nightmares-final-installment/comment-page-1/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tom.  I got you all linked up. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tom.  I got you all linked up. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: ThePolitic -  &#187; CBC Propaganda:  Leo Strauss and Sayyid Qutb</title>
		<link>http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2005/04/26/nightmares-final-installment/comment-page-1/#comment-482</link>
		<dc:creator>ThePolitic -  &#187; CBC Propaganda:  Leo Strauss and Sayyid Qutb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 03:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Here&#8217;s my take on Monday night&#8217;s episode. 	UPDATE 3:  Here&#8217;s my take on Part 3, aired on Tuesday night.  	 	 	                         	  [...]</description>
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